SPX Credit Spread Trader

Discussion in 'Journals' started by El OchoCinco, May 17, 2005.

  1. IB and OX and ToS will allow it but the back month will be treated as a naked option. So if you have the margin for those naked options, you can do it.

    With risk-based haircut, the long options will be counted against the long to reduce the margin requirement and that is where the benefit comes in with the haircut.
     
    #8901     Jul 25, 2006
  2. I like your reverse vega play.

    Suppose I am going to do it now.

    STO Aug 1225 Put @ 7.3
    BTO Sep 1200 Put @ 9.3

    net debit 2.0

    Case 1: Market going down at Aug.
    VIX increases, and BTC Aug 1225 Put for a loss, say at that time Aug 1225 Put @ 9.3 for a loss of $2.
    STO Dec 1175 Put, say @ 25 ( currently it is at 16.5).

    Then follow the adjustment in your post.

    Case 2: Market going sideway.
    No need to adjust. Let the front leg expires, and you still have some values for Sep 1220 Put.

    Case 3: Market goes up a lot at Aug b/c Fed announced no more rate hike.
    Aug 1225 Put expires worthless.
    Sep 1220 Put loses a lot more b/c vega decreases as the stock is further away from the strke.

    So in case 3, we are losing money, and how do we adjust our position?
     
    #8902     Jul 25, 2006
  3. Coach,

    I like to increase my leverage in order to make more $ without increasing my risk. I have been increasing my risk by trading very volatile stocks to get a good premium. It drives me crazy as I have to hedge it frequently. By increasing my leverage, and trading less volatile index like spx, I actually reduce my risk.

    My understanding is that haircut is only for market makers. For retail traders, there is no way to get haircut. Am I right? If not, how can we get haircut margin, and who will provide haircut margin?

    BTW, I am trading full-time.

    Percy
     
    #8903     Jul 25, 2006
  4. Prevail

    Prevail Guest

    welcome to the land of mean reversion overvalued puts.


     
    #8904     Jul 25, 2006
  5. You cannot get a haircut trading retail. For you to get a risk-based haircut, you need to go through a prop or institution.


     
    #8905     Jul 25, 2006
  6. Coach,

    Are there any option prop firms for remote traders?
     
    #8906     Jul 25, 2006
  7. Today, made adjustment to existing position.

    BTC VLO Aug 67.5 call @1.25
    STO VLO Sep 67.5 call @2.45

    Initially I was trying to sell Sep 70 but didn't get a good fill, so I changed to Sep 67.5 call to get a better premium.

    Current position for VLO
    short Sep 67.5
    long Dec 70
    short Dec 75.
     
    #8907     Jul 25, 2006
  8. Sailing

    Sailing

    For a list of Proprietary Trading Firms (haircut margin) try this link
    http://www.utropix.com/jmowery/PropFirms.html




     
    #8908     Jul 25, 2006
  9. #8909     Jul 25, 2006
  10. If span margin is as good as hair cut, I like to stay retail by switching to future options.
     
    #8910     Jul 25, 2006