SPX Credit Spread Trader

Discussion in 'Journals' started by El OchoCinco, May 17, 2005.

  1. Took advantage of the last minute turnaround in the market to close the 1235/1225 put spread (rolled down from the infamous 1245 from May. Fill was .50 so that part of the saga is now closed. I probably didn't need to close as the vix is really down and I don't think we'll see 1235 by exp... however it just seemed like an opportunity I couldn't pass up. Still have some call shorts so not out of the woods:).
     
    #8381     Jul 11, 2006
  2. rdemyan

    rdemyan

    Well, it turns out I finally got filled at $0.05 debit despite the initial b/a $0.00/$0.50. Now, I'll put in an order to sell my long 1370 at $0.05 and if it happens that's great. The important thing is that I've freed up margin and guaranteed myself a profitable July of at least 4.4% (only looking at August positions now).


     
    #8382     Jul 11, 2006
  3. I actually have not had time lately for diagonals but in August I am going to move back into them since I had some nice success on smaller positions. I will use ES options for them and have been investigating using End of Month options along with the regular ES options for more choices. But I will definitely be doing more put ratio spreads and diagonals using ES in the coming months.

     
    #8383     Jul 11, 2006
  4. Sorry to disagree with you but my partial hedges have a 100% fade profitability, not 90% :D

    Notice today's turn around lol.

    By the way, nice bullish flag pattern in SPX. I expect SPX to break out and move perhaps another 20 points higher. Gonna look for ways to play this tomorrow morning, perhaps with a diagonal, OTM calls, call spread or calendar of sorts given expiration coming up.

     
    #8384     Jul 11, 2006
  5. i find the liquidity pathetic at best LOL What are your thoughts so far?
     
    #8385     Jul 11, 2006
  6. Hi Augiedixit, Sorry for the late reply as I was alseep on the other side of the world when you wrote this message. So when i write this you'll be asleep : ) Yup I trade ES through IB (Interactive Brokers) as well. Just opened the account, cause like you I had and still have an account with OX, which doesn't trade ES. As Vendata said, the brokerage is 1.65 per contract but I also heard that the comission is 0.75. Have to check up on that but 1.65 is about right. They have a great trading platform which makes OXs web based platform look very prehistoric. Still have my OX account but don't use it much now that I have IB.

    Cheers
    scoobie :)
     
    #8386     Jul 11, 2006
  7. Sailing

    Sailing

    The put side is 1:1. When and if the market approaches the short strike... volatility spikes take the Break Even much further down... and offer many adjustment opportunities.... although I've found selling into the VEGA spike to be very profitable.

    The call side is ratioed.... and I've been leaning more towards doing credit spreads on that side. A little further out... and a little better return overall.... The problem on the upside is VEGA... it just bleeds out. .. so the credi spread atleast nuetralizes this... per say.

    M~




     
    #8387     Jul 11, 2006
  8. End of month ES options have wider spreads but more premium naturally with the extra 2 weeks or so. Volume is not as much as ES but gonna test them out slowly.


     
    #8388     Jul 11, 2006
  9. Have not tried to keep the put diagonals 1:1. Will have to fool around with that as well...


     
    #8389     Jul 11, 2006
  10. Rally, I understand now why you leg in. Thats because you can't sell ES credit spreads as a combo order. I tried to sell ES bull Puts yesterday on TWS. Managed to get the spread quote on the quote panel. But once I tried to "Transmit" /sell the spread as a combo order, i got a message saying "the contract is not supported by the exchange".


    Therefore I have no choice but to leg in if I want to sell credit spreads on ES. Im sure this is not the case with SPX ?

    Coach, do you find this to be the case as well? Do you have to leg in when you sell ES spreads?

    scoobie
     
    #8390     Jul 11, 2006