SPX Credit Spread Trader

Discussion in 'Journals' started by El OchoCinco, May 17, 2005.

  1. hey now, here is one more thing that we agree on besides JA, you surprise me phil. LOL

    I currently hold a 1075/1050 ratio put spread. Did a 1100/1075 in June. Apparently i am a bit more conservative than you yet again. I am liking those trades alot on the put side lately, especially if you catch a vix spike to sell at :)
     
    #7911     Jun 20, 2006
  2. Actually what ive being doing is even simpler than that(ma crossovers?). I do it at/near the 3-month highs/lows. Been doing it for 18+ months now. 90% win rate in my case with 20-25 points OTM. However, it was all due to the relatively tame rangebound market. Past experience/back testing is no guarantee of future results :)

    With IV increasing i am beggining to lean on long vega bets using debit put spreads at the highs and credit ratio put spreads at the lows.
     
    #7912     Jun 20, 2006
  3. nravo

    nravo

    Semi-newbie question here, but what are ER2 options?
     
    #7913     Jun 20, 2006
  4. jeffm

    jeffm

    RUT is the Russell 2000 index, and futures
    ER2 is the EMini RUT futures on Globex
    IWM is the ETF version of RUT (like SPY is for SP)
    RMN is a mini RUT index (RUT/10) that trades options.
    KRH is the Kurt Russell index. It tracks the number of times KR and Goldie Hawn are discussed in the tabloids. I was long KRH for years, but it crashed in 2001 along with the techs.
     
    #7914     Jun 20, 2006
  5. Prevail

    Prevail Guest

    it is not a limit for the entire day, just intraday. if the cash continues then futures will be pegged with almost no liquidity. but the rule does help keep the futures from running like it did in '87 in large part due to portfolio insurance.

     
    #7915     Jun 20, 2006
  6. You have to remember that when I moved to SPX, I had to give up on put ratio spreads due to the large margin requirements.

    Now with ES options and risk-based margins, I am free :). I could do the same with SPX options but I like ES more for matching my hedges and splitting the b/a spreads.

    I will still post my SPX trades which are being done in the non-prop account so I have not left any of you behind (_|_).

    Put ratio spreads are still credit spreads afterall lol...

    So between the two we will get some nice diversity between the two.

     
    #7916     Jun 20, 2006
  7. Hmm...stretching some definitions LOL.

    Time for new thread and new title me thinks.

    Seriously, when this thread hits 1 million views, ET is going to break, I'm sure of it :D

     
    #7917     Jun 20, 2006
  8. phil,

    all in all we are not that different afterall despite our disagreements in the past LOL

    I think our differences spawn from the whole hedging issue. You are confident and believe you can protect your spreads via hedging/closing/adjusting while i do not. Hence i limit my risks by staying closer.

    I am interested to see how your trade the ratio verticals as i do quite a few of those as well.
     
    #7918     Jun 20, 2006
  9. Unborn mini-Phil is sucking IQ out day by day.

     
    #7919     Jun 20, 2006
  10. Prevail

    Prevail Guest

    one place to start is to calculate expectency. (.7* 2) - (.3*3). 1.4-.9 equals .5. this is before trading costs. an early exit would easily bring the theoretical loss down.

    my countertrend trading system had nearly 15 consecutive winning trading signals from dec to may. countertrend models have higher winning rates but they are even more pronounced in the sp so a premium selling method on it with strict exits is typically viable. this is one of the reasons rally does well.

     
    #7920     Jun 20, 2006