SPX Credit Spread Trader

Discussion in 'Journals' started by El OchoCinco, May 17, 2005.

  1. burrben

    burrben

    Couple things:

    1) Is anyone gearing up for July, or all sitting and waiting for the Fed Announcement?

    2) June results were 6.23% return on risk with the adjustement that I had to make. IF i didn't adjust, it would have been 11.1% return on risk, all inclusive of commish. But I'm still glad I adjusted.

    3) Rally, could you detail a bit how you setup your price channels and entry indicators? I'd like to add some more tech analysis to my trades. I did find your chart you posted, which was helpful.

    Thanks,
    burr.
     
    #7861     Jun 19, 2006
  2. jeffm

    jeffm

    The put skew exists for SPX and almost everything stock market related. ES has margin, execution and spread benefits. But if ES had an actual price advantage over SPX, it would quickly be arbed away.

    SPX ~ 1240, VIX ~ 17.5, market is down 8 pts from my previous post

    JUL 1050P 1.00 bid
    JUL 1150P 4.30 bid
    JUL 1240P 19.5x20.5, JUL 1240C 23.9 x 25.9 ATM
    JUL 1320C 0.45 bid
    JUL 1360C 0.10 bid

    In your quest to avoid the black swan, have you already sold off all your other holdings that are long the market (mutual funds in IRA, etc)? If not, why not? Are those other investments "safer"? What characteristic of their risk/reward and %win/loss makes them safer?

    All I am saying is don't let the black swan be a disproportionate factor in your analysis of trading methods. There are ways to blunt the impact of a "disaster", at the expense of profit.

    You drive an expensive car, but one wrong move can destroy it. Do you give up some profit to buy auto insurance, or do you give up completely and ride the bus?
     
    #7862     Jun 19, 2006
  3. Get on the Bus!


    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0116404/posters

    :cool:
     
    #7863     Jun 19, 2006
  4. Here's my price channel as overlaid on a 3 month SPX chart:

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    #7864     Jun 19, 2006
  5. Well at this point it is hard for me to establish a reliable trading range therefore i am pretty much sitting on my hands. People who rely on TA are probably mostly short the market right now. For me, my next SPX trade will be at levels at or above/below 1290/1220. In my opinion, at this point any bullish/bearish trades will be at flip of a coin odds and needless to say i dont like those. I am 90% cash right now.
     
    #7865     Jun 19, 2006
  6. Not gonna do any July SPX spreads until after the fed meeting this week, an even then there might not be enough time to go sufficiently OTM for my tastes so we will see...

     
    #7866     Jun 19, 2006
  7. coach, have you looked at ES EOM options. Good use for these situations when the regulars dont have enough juice in them. And i think you meant the meeting next week :)
     
    #7867     Jun 19, 2006
  8. Trying to pull in the quotes on X-trader but cannot find them to follow the quotes...

     
    #7868     Jun 19, 2006
  9. You might have to try EW as the symbol. Apologies if that was stating the obvious. :)

     
    #7869     Jun 19, 2006
  10. Actually it was stated the obvious to the very stupid. Was not looking for the right symbol LOL...

    Interestingly a JUNE ES EOM 1160 is at 1.00. Was looking at selling 100 for $5,000 credit for 2 weeks. Hmmm Fed risk too much I think although that i such a far low.

     
    #7870     Jun 19, 2006