SPX Credit Spread Trader

Discussion in 'Journals' started by El OchoCinco, May 17, 2005.

  1. Wasnt talking to you so dont see why you felt the need to respond to me so i will say this. All this coming from a guy who's been trading options for less than 12 months? Dont want to sound like an ass (perhaps too late for that lol) But a newb in search of a proven successful strategy in FOTM credit spreads? Please don't make me laugh. :D

    Hate to burst your bubble but there is no such thing as a proven successful strategy. There's only strategies that can be proven successful/unsuccessful in the hands of good/bad traders. FOTM credit spread strategy is NOT a newb friendly strategy despite the high probabilities.

    See, responding to statements like yours is why it appears that i am picking on coach's strategy when infact it isnt an attack towards him or anyone. It's just an attempt to dissuade the myth of falling in love with a credit spread. Perhaps, it's my fault i am so animate about it. I am working on it :)
     
    #7651     Jun 14, 2006
  2. I dont think you can display them from your drive but i coul dbe wrong. If you want to display them rather than attach them you have to upload them to a host and direct link them using the [i.m.g]yourlink[/i.m.g] code. no dots in the img's.
     
    #7652     Jun 14, 2006
  3. all of you guys are missing imo the big picture regarding risk management.
    i am shocked that no one is discussing this.
    oc, adjusted. most people here would not have done this. so much was demonstrated when this was done. it shows such things as a business like approach with no emotion. i am impressed with your ability to manage. enough said, i am sure most understand the implications to longevity that this behavior demonstrates. everyone should review that adjustment post , it was written with different emotions and actions than other peoples adjustments.
    with that said, i do not trade fotm, but as a twelve year option trader; i am moved.

    ps: anyone trade es puts/calls? the margin requirement is (span) much less than spx.
    i currently have july 1120's that require 700 margin each.
     
    #7653     Jun 14, 2006
  4. Hey vp, if you don't think they are present , look up LTCM. A majority of their losses were in part bec they coudlnt get out of their huge position. If you don't think they exist, try trading in size in coffee , cocoa and Oj options.
     
    #7654     Jun 14, 2006
  5. I think was my point.... I do not think anyone here has expressed any concern over credit spreads in higher vol environment. I actuallly welcome it because due to the put spread skew I can go further OTM then I would conservatively go. What concerns me more is actual volatility of the markets to the downside and this 100 drop was pretty orderly over the short-time period and followed a technical analysis pattern :D

     
    #7655     Jun 14, 2006
  6. I use tinyurl.com to host the image and they provide the URL link to imbed the image here in the post. That might be the best way to post an image from ones own drive.

    Quite useful for putting JA pics in here. Man did anyone see here hosting the MTV Music Awards? First time I actually watched the show on mute lol...

     
    #7656     Jun 14, 2006
  7. I think Rally trades the ES options. Unfortunately only IB allows them so most here are trading SPX.


     
    #7657     Jun 14, 2006
  8. really ? While I understand OC's rational of adjustment ( piece of mind , "comfort zone") let's look at it strictly on odds vs. probability bases. He took an actual loss of 17k vs. potential future loss of 112k. IOW , he placed a 5.5:1 bet that SPX WILL move 35 point lower in the next 48 hours. Can its happen this time ? Of course. But if one place the same bet 10 times , you think he/she will have an overall +PnL?
     
    #7658     Jun 14, 2006
  9. you missed MY entire point. imo, the reason for his adjustment was not "piece of mind, comfort zone" . it is standard risk management rules. i run and own a 50 person business in addition to my option trading. i run the same risk management rules. it is possible that i see it wrong, but i doubt it. only coach knows what is in his head.
     
    #7659     Jun 14, 2006
  10. Hmmm where did I take a $17k loss and where did I bet that SPX WILL move 35 points lower.... Don't forget the call side of my legged into condor and put profits already banked on my JUNE positions.

    I did not make any bets I am going to make 10 times. This was a move lower for some cushion with 2 days to expiration.

    As of right now if all positions expire worthless I have a loss of about $5k...

     
    #7660     Jun 14, 2006