SPX Credit Spread Trader

Discussion in 'Journals' started by El OchoCinco, May 17, 2005.

  1. The proper term is "conjoined". =)
     
    #7601     Jun 13, 2006
  2. SPX 1235/1240 for $1.5 credit closed at breakeven. Better give up the credit than lose the risk here as far as i am concerned. Tough market to read.
     
    #7602     Jun 13, 2006
  3. mantenar

    mantenar

     
    #7603     Jun 13, 2006
  4. Sometimes taking the loss and moving out of the way is the best choice. We have CPI tomorrow and possible nice large down day which will pump the premiums in your spread with 2 days to expiration.

    The key is to go through your analysis long before we get this close. So you can react calmly and smoothly without the stress :).
     
    #7604     Jun 13, 2006
  5. newbie463

    newbie463

    hey coach,

    when would you think about selling the puts you have as a partial hedge?
     
    #7605     Jun 13, 2006
  6. I commit to the partial hedge usually for as long as I have my credit spread open otherwise I would be trying to time when to profit from the hedge or not and get whipsawed. I would only take it off if I saw strong support and felt the puts were not needed and I had a nice profit. Or I might take it off if there is a profit and we are close to expiration and my credit spreads seem safe.

    However, for the most part I leave it on as a sunk cost to do its job :)
     
    #7606     Jun 13, 2006
  7. burrben

    burrben

    Coach,
    I'd be interested in what adjustments you are considering, and the timing of those adjustments. I have the 1205/1195 spread. Would you consider adding a debit spread above your short strike? Or just roll down the position? I'm hopeful that we won't go down 30pts in 2days + SET, but really who knows. What would you feel is the next support level as well?

    Thanks,
    Burr.

     
    #7607     Jun 13, 2006
  8. Well I still have my JUN SPY 121 Puts as a partial hedge so I am not jumping the gun yet. Right now it seems 1230 support keeps holding even though it is getting poked and I would want it to hold all day today until the close for me to feel safe for today. For me 1220 is 25 points away and that is when I would consider rolling the 1195 down to 1190 for a little extra room given we would be 1 or 2 days from expiration.

    I alreayd banked some profits from the calls so I have no problem using them to absorb some of the cost of the adjustment. That plus any profits from the 121 Puts.

    So my first inclination depending on how or if we drop today or tomorrow is to adjust another strike down for some cushion. With 2 days left I just want to stay ahead since 1200 is a round number level of support. I also see 1220 as another level of support on the measured move out of the bear flag the SPX formed on the drop and pullback to 1290.

    So 1230 for today and 1220 and 1200 as near-term support levels for protection of my 1195 strikes. First steps will be to roll down 1195 strike if needed. Rolling into a butterfly is not high on my list right now since the debit will be high and I might lose less if I just close or adjust over the FLY where I would be hoping for a lottery ticket gain.

    I will know better based on today's close and reaction to tomorrow.
     
    #7608     Jun 13, 2006
  9. It's been a pretty tough month all around. I cant imagine the average premium seller having an easy time through this selloff unless they only sell the call side. Good reason why reducing -greeks exposure on the put side or completely taking it out of your trading is a good idea to consider.

    Just something to think about.
     
    #7609     Jun 13, 2006
  10. Stress is in the eye of the beholder :D
     
    #7610     Jun 13, 2006