SPX Credit Spread Trader

Discussion in 'Journals' started by El OchoCinco, May 17, 2005.

  1. Hey now, don't go and jinx us with a week left.:D
     
    #6231     May 11, 2006
  2. Mark:

    That is exactly the debate we had here some time ago and the main reason why I have to state that the VIX hedges work if my assumptions are correct. The assumptions are that in a Black Swan event VIX spikes hard and there is uncertainty as to when it will come down and in most cases it comes down to a level hihger than prior to the spike. Therefore, the assumption is that the forward expectation of volatility will still be higher than the vols prior to the swan event.

    So if my assumptions are correct, then the VIX hedge will provide some undetermined profit that will put a band aid on the spread losses. If my assumptions are incorrect, well I am still in the same boat I was before in a sense with slightly less credit due to the purchase of the VIX hedges. I intent to only spend small amounts on the VIX hedges at times until I can get a definitive answer if it will work the way I would hope. I actually hope i never find out the answer to be honest :).

    I am looking into other potential hedging vehicles which have also been discussed here as well, such as VIX futures or Eurodollar futures but for now I do not have market access to them so those remain more educational pursuits.

    Hoprefully this debate will never be resolved :)

     
    #6232     May 11, 2006
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    The recent breakout of the 2-month trading range has now failed. The longer term channel is still intact. Unless there is a strong reversal today and tomorrow, it is very likely that we stay in this channel for a lil while longer.

    Next support area 1295-1300.

    I think it's pretty safe to say that SPX 1340 is not as much of a threat for our close OTM may positions as it was 2 days ago. Just my opinion as always.
     
    #6233     May 11, 2006
  4. you think i want that? hell, i got a huge debit spread position open.:eek:
     
    #6234     May 11, 2006
  5. MAY POSITIONS


    -500 SPX MAY 1215/1225/1370/1380 Iron Condors @ $0.60

    Credit = $30,000
    Risk = $470,000
    Return = 6.38%

    VIX CALL HEDGES

    Long 100 VIX MAY 20.00 Calls @ $0.20
    Cost = $2,000

    Long 50 VIX MAY 15.0 Calls @ $0.62
    Cost = $3,100

    DIAGONAL SPREADS

    Sold - 24 MAY 1345 Calls @ $1.50 ($3,600)
    Bought +30 JUN 1385 Calls @ $1.05 $3,150

    Net Credit = $450
     
    #6235     May 11, 2006
  6. Can anyone suggest source to study diagonal concept I have never traded them Would like to try one thanks
     
    #6236     May 11, 2006
  7. Murray:

    I am actually having some fun and small success with the diagonals. As I re-posted my position you see I put on a small 30 * 24 Diagonal for a $450 credit with a margin requirement of about $96,000.

    I have not made any adjustments yet but just have been watching it. I may do more in the prop account since I will not have to worry about margin as much and do larger size as your group is doing. I think the flexibility for using it on the upside interests me as opposed to chasing tiny credits with call spreads due to the skew.

    I am looking at a JULY JUNE one after MAY expiration and will see what strikes I like depending on the location of the index next week..


     
    #6237     May 11, 2006
  8. To place an ES 5-point bear call spread with a short strike 25 points OTM IB requires an initial margin of $83 per contract and maint margin of $66. Don't ask me how they come up with that stuff :) ES options have a multiplier of 50. I hope that was helpful to you.
     
    #6238     May 11, 2006
  9. ready

    ready

    SON OF A BEARitch
    The ndx came down 30 pts in 15 mins
     
    #6239     May 11, 2006
  10. Ready:

    Was that a painful move or one that could become painful by MAY expiration....
     
    #6240     May 11, 2006