SPX Credit Spread Trader

Discussion in 'Journals' started by El OchoCinco, May 17, 2005.

  1. You got it all wrong, if i had the balls i'd be trading FOTM where the risk is greater in my book. :D

    It all depends on a trader's personality and tolerance for risk. Since this is my conservative account and it holds my retirement money, i am not taking big risks or looking for big rewards. 10-20% annually is my goal. It sure beats the hell out of bonds. Just because my spreads are closer to the current price doesnt mean they are riskier. EDIT. In fact, the biggest drawdown i've seen for the past 15 months is 2% and my strikes have been hit 6-7 times if i am not mistaken.
     
    #5501     Apr 21, 2006
  2. rdemyan

    rdemyan

    This is your conservative account!! :)

    But seriously, wouldn't you say your strategy requires you to monitor your positions more than if you were FOTM. Can I ask: are you a full-time trader or do you have a regular day job as well.


     
    #5502     Apr 21, 2006
  3. I have a job that allows me access to the internet 9-5, so i guess its BOTH. :D

    Actually, daily monitoring isnt all that prudent. I start looking for adjustments when my short strike is hit. Ideally when the long strike is hit since i can go higher and also take advantage of the gamma curvature like riskarb likes to say :)

    If i miss the day my strikes are hit and market shoots for the moon then thats just a better entry for the second spread, if it falls then i treat it like the strike wasnt hit. Now, there's alot more to it but i will explain when we get to it in the future. Again, it's all about the position sizing and not so much the strikes, if i could get a $1.5-1.7 credit 50 points OTM i'd do that instead :D
     
    #5503     Apr 21, 2006
  4. rdemyan

    rdemyan

    Okay, and I hate to say this but I guess I look forward to watching you adjust one of your trades (sorry) :)

    "A better entry for the second spread". Yeah, but it will cost you a fortune to get out of the first spread. So I would think the net debit would be ugly, unless you're planning to increase the number of positions in order to maintain a net overall credit at whatever level you deem appropriate.

     
    #5504     Apr 21, 2006
  5. Yes i increase the size to compensate but the initial loss isnt all that ugly like you put it, don't forget its only a 5 point spread. Usually if there's enough time to expiration(10-15 days) and the market is at the long strike my loss is only about $1.5-$2 because i am at the peak of the gamma curvature on my long side.
     
    #5505     Apr 21, 2006
  6. qamhwr

    qamhwr

    There is no doubt that you are the LEG person.

    George


     
    #5506     Apr 21, 2006
  7. LOL no comment since this isnt the "TA - myth or law in trading" thread :D but who cares if something is true or false, if it works for me then i use it.
     
    #5507     Apr 21, 2006
  8. Congrats on the great run. I also think that you should take coach's advice to heart. I followed your posts 1 week before expiration and my heart skipped a beat when i saw your exposure. I would add one more thing though. I wouldnt just refrain from increasing your position sizes over the next months but i would actually be reducing them especially on the put side.

    Just my 2 cents.
     
    #5508     Apr 21, 2006
  9. Rally -- if you're only going to hold for a week, why use a slow-moving spread? Why not buy some SPY puts?

     
    #5509     Apr 21, 2006
  10. I'm guessng he monitors his trades less than the FOTM folks -- that's the whole idea, small positions, better risk/reward, less monitoring.

     
    #5510     Apr 21, 2006