SPX Credit Spread Trader

Discussion in 'Journals' started by El OchoCinco, May 17, 2005.

  1. rdemyan

    rdemyan

    Rally:

    How can you be so sure that there will be a "better price" soon enough to provide reasonable premium for April on the FOTM spreads that we trade?

    I follow a group of day traders, and I can tell you these guys are more often than not puzzled by how the market moves. They use sophisticated TA tools and most have over 25 years of experience. They say the biggest single thing that appears to be moving the markets, and not always in the direction TA would indicate, is program trading. I posted a chart recently which demonstrated the massive increase in program trading as a percentage of volume traded over the last few years.


     
    #4661     Mar 28, 2006
  2. Oh i am far from being sure. But due to the todays price action, it is likely that the SPX will move back to its trading range i.e. probably retest the lows again.

    But I see what you guys are saying if you must be in a trade then i guess today is as good as any.

    Since i go for closer OTM strikes, for me it is imperative that i wait for a good entry. And if i dont get a better price entry then i just don't enter in a trade.
     
    #4662     Mar 28, 2006
  3. I have too much wax in my wings to fly that close to the sun :D
     
    #4663     Mar 28, 2006
  4. rdemyan

    rdemyan

    Yes, I agree with you that your strategy requires closer attention to entry points.

    I look forward to reading your trading posts. For my benefit and others who are interested, I'd appreciate it if you wouldn't mind adding a brief blurb about the entry point, i.e. top of trading range, breakout, etc. Just a request; your call, of course, on how much or little you want to post.

    Like I said before, I suspect that one day I'll have to (because FOTM premiums are too low) or I'll have the time availabe to devote to a strategy similar to yours. So it's great to have the opportunity to preview how adjustment intensive this strategy is.

    Just as an aside: I got filled today when the SPX was down about 3.5 points. It's now down almost 8 points and the mid on my spread is still at $0.50, which is what I got. Of course, the movement on your closer OTM spreads would be greater.

    Thanks and Good Trading!

     
    #4664     Mar 28, 2006
  5. ryank

    ryank

    I got filled and the market kept dropping too. My mid popped a bit but not too far from where I got filled. The mid is now back down to .05 above my fill. Funny how these OTM spreads work sometimes.

    ryan

    just trying to keep the wax on my wings
     
    #4665     Mar 28, 2006
  6. rdemyan

    rdemyan

    Ryan:

    Are you talking about the paper trade you placed or a real trade?

     
    #4666     Mar 28, 2006
  7. ryank

    ryank

    This one is real.

    ryan
     
    #4667     Mar 28, 2006
  8. rdemyan

    rdemyan

    Can I ask which strikes you selected?

     
    #4668     Mar 28, 2006
  9. I have the APR 1245/1250 Put Spread and APR 1330/1335 Call Spread. I will adjust when/if the market hits my short strikes and certainly make a post about it.

    Right now, it seems the SPX has broken the support line and we maybe stuck inside the old trading range for a while, which i am sure is good for all of us.
     
    #4669     Mar 28, 2006
  10. rdemyan

    rdemyan

    I assume you meant APR 1245/1250 bull put spread?

    I was thinking about my comment that your closer OTM spreads will have more movement, but I forgot that you typically do 5 point spreads. So, I'm not sure that they would move as much as I thought. This could be tested with a pricing model, but too busy to spend the time. Easier to post and ask :)


     
    #4670     Mar 28, 2006