SPX Credit Spread Trader

Discussion in 'Journals' started by El OchoCinco, May 17, 2005.

  1. Tough one to answer in a short number because the distance OTM affects how willing I am to accept a lesser credit. If the strikes were 1210/1220 I would have accepted a smaller credit for the greater cushion.

    SPX flexibility allows you to NOT trade at the bid or ask so therefore the fills are rated higher than 5 on that scale. In other words, you NEVER sell at the bid or buy at the ask nor should you ever need to in order to get filled. Many times I can get above the midpoint of the BID and the B/A mid-point in selling a spread and that is good considering the MM we are dealing with. IN that case I bump it up to a 7.

    For artisitic styling I give it a 8.


     
    #4511     Mar 20, 2006
  2. rdemyan

    rdemyan

    Coach:

    I'm seriously considering buying an XSP or SPY hedge for my 1345 short. I've never placed such a hedge before. Would you mind refreshing my memory on how you decide between one or the other. Isn't the XSP European style so wouldn't it be preferred if I plan to purchase a bull call spread.

     
    #4512     Mar 20, 2006
  3. If you are long an option or spread then I am not sure American v. European would matter really. In XSP v. SPY choose the cheapest and tightest spread for the strike you are considering.

    Off to do my show....
     
    #4513     Mar 20, 2006
  4. I've been thinking some more about the ratio diagonal spreads approach discussed by Murray. In order to put on the spread for even money or a credit, it seems that the separation between the strikes needs to be fairly wide (30+?)

    I'm curious how one would manage risk in a scenario like the October-December timeframe. With SPX around 1180 at the end of October, if one had done a diagonal call spread for breakeven or credit, and wanted to go way OTM, you'd need to choose something like the Nov 1220/Dec 1250.

    At November expiration, SPX closed around 1240. Looking at the historic SPX option prices (I've been collecting my own daily data for the last several months), I couldn't find an easy way to adjust where you wouldn't be out a good chunk of change. SPX moved very rapidly higher in that timeframe, and volatility/time weren't enough to compensate.

    Any thoughts on when and how one would best adjust in this scenario? From Murray's original post, calendars look quite rosy and I'm wondering if there's something that I'm not seeing. Because during Nov/Dec of last year, I see a possible worst case scenario for calendars which could easily repeat itself when volatility increases in the future.
     
    #4514     Mar 20, 2006
  5. rdemyan

    rdemyan

    Agreed. But on a bull call there is still a short position that I guess could get exercised, couldn't it.

     
    #4515     Mar 20, 2006
  6. It gets exercised and you exercise your long call for the maximum value of the spread before expiration.... therefore it would be quite welcome and not a problem.

     
    #4516     Mar 20, 2006
  7. This is for DonnaV,

    I read in your earlier post of 3/17/06 about 10 day overbought Oscillator and also 30 day overbought oscillator. Donna, what are these oscillator and where I can find them. Is there any charting website that allows you to check this oscillators.

    If you don't mind sharing, what other technical indicators do you use to identify overbought/oversold market conditions.

    Thanks for your help.
     
    #4517     Mar 20, 2006
  8. ryank

    ryank

    The SPX has hit 1310 each of the last 3 days. Is it a resistance point or just a pause before moving higher? Your guess is as good as mine.

    ryan
     
    #4518     Mar 20, 2006
  9. rdemyan

    rdemyan

    Check out this chart on how program trading accounts for most of the volume (courtesy of etfdigest.com)
     
    #4519     Mar 21, 2006
  10. ChrisM

    ChrisM

    #4520     Mar 21, 2006