SPX Credit Spread Trader

Discussion in 'Journals' started by El OchoCinco, May 17, 2005.

  1. Synaptic

    Synaptic

    Got a fill of .90 on the 1335/1345 APR Calls.... surprised, as it looked like the mid at the time of the trade. :eek:
     
    #4211     Mar 10, 2006
  2. That does it.... I'm canceling my RUT order...thought I might try an Apr/May 720P cal and even offered them a nickel:D
     
    #4212     Mar 10, 2006
  3. Nice fill!!

    What time did you get it? Last 15 minutes of the day?


     
    #4213     Mar 10, 2006
  4. Synaptic

    Synaptic

    You got it ... last 15 mins. I was somewhat shocked .... can't remember my last fill that was @ mid.


     
    #4214     Mar 10, 2006
  5. I'm wondering about doing a short straddle instead of an IC spread.

    With the SPX you could take in about 40 points total by selling the ATM call/put one month out. If the index moves down/up 40 points you simply cover one side and let the other side expire.

    Is this a decent strategy or too risky compared to the IC?
     
    #4215     Mar 10, 2006
  6. ryank

    ryank

    I think it can be a good strategy as long as you can handle the margin (according to OX, a 1 lot has a margin of $35,780 and you bring in a credit of $3,740) AND you keep on top of your position and be ready to make adjustments as needed. There is another thread on ET that does a similar thing on equities (I believe Coach is a regular poster there, I can't remember the name of the thread).

    ryan
     
    #4216     Mar 10, 2006
  7. chrdso

    chrdso

    Riskarb's combo to fly conversion journal ....??


    No PUT spreads for March either.

    Just closed SPX 1320/1325
    Still have XEO 595/600
     
    #4217     Mar 10, 2006
  8. B5476

    B5476

    This is a valid strategy, however the risk is substantial. If a "black swan" event were to occur and the SPX were to gap up/down significantly, you could lose your account if you had a sufficiently large position. As you assess the risks, I don't think you can ignore this possibility. Since it could be a fatal event to your trading account, you really need to think through accepting that risk.
    I am sure that everyone who actively trades IC's gets frustrated at spending the big $ it takes to buy the long side of each of the call and put spreads; I simply regard this as insurance (albeit expensive insurance) against being taken out of the game and having to go back to a real job.
     
    #4218     Mar 11, 2006
  9. mantenar

    mantenar

    Vandelay, I like your idea. A strangle can be bought to hedge the sold straddle. The margin requirement will be lower. You can buy a JUL OTM strangle . Every month you could sell the straddle till July. You could buy back the straddle in the expiration week to reduce the risk. Any thoughts on this.
     
    #4219     Mar 12, 2006
  10. The thing about a short straddle v. the Iron Condor is that I go much further out of the money than the short straddle range. In fact I advocate going out at least 2x the straddle price distribution to look at OTM strikes. Also short straddles are more susceptible to changes in IV than a spread is while both have the delta gamma risks.

    The margin for short straddles is HUGE! For every straddle I could do about 30 - 40 spreads. Although the credit is less, I can be a lot further OTM so the trade off for less credit is more cushion.

    DOing a short straddle in certain circumstances is up to you. For example, I sold the 1275 MAR straddle last week for $19.50 to take advantage of 1-week time decay. But to do it consistently can lead to much larger losses than doing conservative spreads.

     
    #4220     Mar 13, 2006