SPX Credit Spread Trader

Discussion in 'Journals' started by El OchoCinco, May 17, 2005.

  1. The b/a has tighten some on that spread so perhaps a call to OX trading desk might push it along or give you a better sense of the real floor b/a spread. Do not let the man keep you out...

     
    #2451     Dec 1, 2005
  2. I had my JAN SPX Put chain up as I read your question LOL.

    1175/1190 with a midpoint of $0.70 is the highest I would go I think.

    1165/1175 with mid at $0.40 would become more attractive if we had some pull back in the next 3 days or so.

    Those two sets are the ones I got my eye on for now for JAN puts. I think I may simply grab a bunch of JAN puts next week and then add some partial hedges deep OTM and then just let the stew simmer for JAN. I will start slow and just grab some small hits where I can for the first quarter of the new year ;)

     
    #2452     Dec 1, 2005
  3. rdemyan

    rdemyan

    Actually, I tried to get out yesterday, but then once I saw you got out, I decided not to. Don't you remember that we decided a while back that you were a contrarian indicator. I guess you decided you didn't like that role. LOL :)

    Thanks for the advice.

     
    #2453     Dec 1, 2005
  4. Even contrarian indicators have 1 or two bad signals lol. But you cannot judge the signal by one day really. I am out so the market will most likely not reach 1285 lol...


     
    #2454     Dec 1, 2005
  5. OC, do you look at Vols at all?

    I wasn't around all day but earlier SPX call prem was on average 40% below model fair value. Front month calls were going off at an average 7.5% I.V.


     
    #2455     Dec 1, 2005
  6. Yes but the attempted 1305 sale was simply a two week trade to grab some premium at a good strike. If the market moved higher I still do not expect it to go above 1305 in two weeks so I was not concerned with IV on this one. Also if the market did increase IV would drop slightly. Low pricing was definitely a reflection of low prob of expriing ITM.


     
    #2456     Dec 1, 2005
  7. rjg96

    rjg96

    I also tried to get out at .5 (1285/1295) but never got filled. :( I'm hoping that 1270 is indeed a strong resistance. I'm glad that the market flatlined at around 1264-1265 from about 2pm onward. Unlike days in Nov it didn't trend steadly upwards throughout the day and end on the high (althouh it did end close to the high). So, i'm hoping this indicates some sort of resistance at the 1266 level. The next few days will be interesting to say the least.

    One other question, if the SPX is, say, at 1270 on the Thursday before expiration, what would it likely cost to get out of a 1285/1295? SET risk has me worried about being even 15 points away.
     
    #2457     Dec 1, 2005
  8. Are you looking at SPX for those OTM hedges? Or SPY like you have been doing???
     
    #2458     Dec 1, 2005
  9. you mean straight puts not put spreads...right??? I'd been thinking along those lines but haven't a good sense yet where to strike...


     
    #2459     Dec 1, 2005
  10. No naked puts for me, I meant put spreads ;)

     
    #2460     Dec 1, 2005