SPX Credit Spread Trader

Discussion in 'Journals' started by El OchoCinco, May 17, 2005.

  1. because i care...and i need to make sure i do not get complacent .
    yes it takes big balls and good assessments to have been short.

    i was also massively short calls too. i had no short puts, just refused to sell puts in the highs. i for one plan on not putting on some careless trades after looking so good now; i implore others who were short calls or the market to tread carefully.

    anyway...cache and others, great job!
     
    #13181     Feb 28, 2007
  2. Eric,

    1) The first 300 point drop was good for me. My puts were very far OTM and my remaining calls were much CTM. Was considerably ahead.

    2) I sold more put spreads during the day

    3) The subsequent decline wiped out those gains and I lost a little on the day However, I now have a few put positions that are ATM and dangerous.

    4) I closed many call spreads yesterday, and want to add new ones, but I probably have to focus on not getting hammered on put spreads. New positions should probably be verticals, since they ae better to open when IV is high. But, I really prefer diagonals, so do not know which I will choose.

    5) I have not adjusted any put positions yet. I doubt that I will be able to do so and will selectively take the loss and close some, as it beocmes necessary.

    6) My positive vega disappears on a decline. I am essentially vega neutral here, so an my initial positive vega is no longer going to help.

    7) Big disappointment regarding curvature is that I find it easy to own extra calls, but was never willing to pay the cost of owning extra puts.

    Thanks for asking.

    Mark
     
    #13182     Feb 28, 2007
  3. Sorry - mech. Got a bit carried way on trying to figure out what was behind the market moves.

    General Question for anyone.

    With volatility and premium being so high does anyone have an opinion on the merits of playing a strangle or collar here on SPX. If volatility is really as high VIX suggests might it be a warranted trade?

    TS
     
    #13183     Feb 28, 2007
  4. Regarding collars: We all already play them. Selling a put spread is the synthetic equivalent of a collar.

    Regarding strangles: Risk seems out of line with reward. But, as I am sure you know, selling a strangle and buying a further OTM strangle for protection, is an iron condor.

    High IV is an appropriate time to open vertical spreads. Credits are greater than in a low IV environment.

    Mark
     
    #13184     Feb 28, 2007
  5. These huge bid/ask spreads are killers!

    Sure, if you are entering a position, you can be patient.

    But with high IV and huge spreads, it makes exiting existing positions somewhat difficult.

    Observation: if you are patient, you can trade in between these spreads and do some scalping. Not a recommendation, just an observation. LOL

    AZD
     
    #13185     Feb 28, 2007
  6. True, but some of us (that's me) trade very options with almost zero public paper.

    Mark
     
    #13186     Feb 28, 2007
  7. Mark,

    Would you please elaborate on this statement? Almost zero public paper?

    AZD
     
    #13187     Feb 28, 2007
  8. That means these options have very low volume. No individual investors (the public) trading.

    "Paper" refers to orders that are printed on paper and carried into the trading pits by runners and handed to floor brokers for execution.

    No public paper means that if I want to trade these specific options, I trade with the MMs. Thus, cannot take legs.

    Mark
     
    #13188     Feb 28, 2007
  9. Thanks.

    I still cannot believe these quotes. Huge spreads. For example, the June 1325 puts are going for 11 x 16 right now!

    A five point spread. Come on MMs, is that really necessary?

    AZD
     
    #13189     Feb 28, 2007

  10. yeah, impossible to get a realistic exit position. But i feel like someone made huge bags of money from selling off the VIX from yesterday to now

    I'm tentatively starting to relax the sphincter...but I dont want to spook the market...btw, i put on a RUT 830/850 spread
     
    #13190     Feb 28, 2007