SPX Credit Spread Trader

Discussion in 'Journals' started by El OchoCinco, May 17, 2005.

  1. You can read more about riskarb's double butterflies here:
    http://www.kaininito.com/options/articles/

    The problem with these is that right now, with such low vol, the middle of the double fly dips below the zero line....

     
    #1301     Oct 18, 2005
  2. Obviously there is more to it[abs vol] but regardless of vols the same strike otm combo fly is underwater at expiration at the middle, combo strike. Only way to avoid that scenario is to get the long call and put fly on at a credit or use a gut strike pair.
     
    #1302     Oct 18, 2005
  3. I went to the link. It looks interesting. But I have a question.

    How do you set up a butterfly with middle strikes $3 apart? I like how the profit zone is a lot wider in this type of trade.

    I know $2 strike difference is equaivalent to an IC.

    Ex.:
    Buy 33 Put
    Sell 34 Put
    Sell 36 Call
    Buy 37 Call

    Thanks.

    Daytrader85
     
    #1303     Oct 18, 2005
  4. Riskarb

    A quick question? In an earlier post you mentioned a friend you have from the CBOE named JS that made a very healthy sum in the OEX. Was he a First Op MM with the accro JIZ.

    Just wondered.
     
    #1304     Oct 18, 2005
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    #1305     Oct 19, 2005

  6. First Ops before SLK, yeah. Don't know what his acronym was, as I met him off the floor. I met him through a buddy who clerked for him as well. The clerk has the initials PM.

    Until now I thought his name was Silverman. :p
     
    #1306     Oct 19, 2005
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    #1307     Oct 19, 2005
  8. OK....this is getting a little WEIRD.

    I used to clerk for JIZ when he was at first op.

    MY initials are PM.

    It would of been about 1989 when I was 24 years old. Do we know each other??? You can private message me with the details.....
     
    #1308     Oct 19, 2005
  9. OK....this is getting a little WEIRD.

    I used to clerk for JIZ when he was at first op.

    MY initials are PM.

    It would of been about 1989 when I was 24 years old. Do we know each other??? You can private message me with the details.....

    His name is actually Silberman with a "b"

    He lives in Aspen now. They used his house in the movie, ASPEN EXTREME.
     
    #1309     Oct 19, 2005


  10. Hi Pabst,

    Is buying the friggin spread a +ve expectancy? Does buying breaks and selling rallies generate +ve expectancy? Only if you get the timing right. So, forget the friggin spreads, just trade the underlying!
    :)
     
    #1310     Oct 19, 2005