SPX Credit Spread Trader

Discussion in 'Journals' started by El OchoCinco, May 17, 2005.

  1. I use a different approach. When delta moves from positive to negative, I will add another put diagonal to adjust the delta to my comfort zone (not neural). Since I open the new diagonal with a better IV (smaller IV), I have a chance of getting a bigger profit.

    I didn't want to close all my diagonals because it meant i didn't get my target profit (because closing at smaller IV = smaller profit).

    I don't know which is a better approach. It is interesting to compare these two approaches. Any comments on the pros and cons?
     
    #12331     Dec 5, 2006
  2. Sailing

    Sailing

    Mark,

    You mention diversification, yet there is a strong correlation between the indexes you mentioned in which you currently trade.

    Have you considered trading non-correlated indexes? on a weighted/equal basis?

    Reason I ask, is as part of our discussion for our next investment club meeting, our topic will be diversification! I personally look at diversification as non-correlation, not in quanities of positions or different strategies, although structuring strategies differently can generate the same objective.... ie, MAV.

    Mav... on the otherhand, would not diversify, but would stresses positive curvature to eliminate risk... thus eliminating the need for diversification or non-correlation. What I like most about having curvature is the not having to diversify for risk protection.

    Murray




     
    #12332     Dec 5, 2006
  3. I do have positions in SOX, OSX and MVR, but they are not large enough for diversification help.

    I would rather trade indexes where I can more easily get into and out of positions. I have an extremely difficult time with SPX, so don't do much there.

    Bottom line: I chose to trade whre I can, rather than attempt to diversify.

    Mark
     
    #12333     Dec 5, 2006
  4. I don't know which is a better approach either.

    It never bothers me to get out before my target profit is reached because I find that I can receive a significantly larger credit by moving out one month. That provides an excellent path towards making more than my target profit in the new spreads.

    One other point: I am more comfortable being short call spreads than put spreads, especially at this level in the market, so I am not interested in adding additional put spreads to my portfolio. Just a personal preference.

    Mark
     
    #12334     Dec 5, 2006
  5. Coach -- are you really brave enough to grab puts spreads on a large spike down while the market appears to be topping?

     
    #12335     Dec 5, 2006
  6. Well I dont mean a market crash spike, just a down day pull back. We are still in a bullish trend but I need a down day to get a good put spread fill. We have had one significant down day in the past 5 weeks or so, so never had a good oppurtunity to get in....

     
    #12336     Dec 5, 2006
  7. You take your opportunities when they come... Got a small 1340/1330 Put bull spread @ .60 on 11/27 w 18 days to expire. Would have wanted a larger position, but was hoping for a little more follow thru to the down side for even more premium or even lower put spread levels.

    My TA indicated two support levels at that time: 1387 trandline support combined with 1360 Pullback support. Plenty of room for exiting without too much damage to the trade (which was relatively small).
     
    #12337     Dec 5, 2006
  8. off-topic ? --
    yesterday i tried to close out my 40 RUT 732/720 put vertical spreads for .05

    ToS filled me for 1 contract and charged me $25.90 for it.

    anyone else getting partial fills and non-partial commission charges with ToS in closing RUT VERTICAL SPREADS ?

    wondering if .... Interactive Brokers has the same problem ?
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    ....on-topic ... looking to get an end of month RUT call vertical spread but ... alas... no premium.
     
    #12338     Dec 6, 2006
  9. Call in ToS and explained what happened, they will do right by you. They might even give you that one contract free since they know you will still need to close out the other 39. Never hurts to ask :D

     
    #12339     Dec 6, 2006
  10. IB would have charged you a total of $2.00 for that trade.

    Mark
     
    #12340     Dec 6, 2006