SPX Credit Spread Trader

Discussion in 'Journals' started by El OchoCinco, May 17, 2005.

  1. LOL well it is a credit spread thread ;)

    A few short deep ITM SPX straddles at the current prices is a play on the pullback move in the market I expect. At $30 and with a breakeven of 1350 (1320 strike) with 2.5 weeks to expiration and SPX at 1334, it is a controlled risk since it is deep ITM calls. (i.e. if the market sunk to 1300 overnight, it would still be a small loss).

    :)


     
    #10681     Oct 3, 2006
  2. Only one visitor to this thread should be getting naked and Leon's watching!

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    #10682     Oct 3, 2006
  3. Sailing

    Sailing

    Question: What analysis software are you using....

    First, your Double Diagonal listed below does not appear to be just a put diagonal... it looks like a call and put... or a Double Diagonal.

    Second, since the diagonal is a play on VEGA, ie, you're long VEGA, your exit should be on increasing volatility. So.. collecting .50 was the appropriate move. Contrary to others who play it for THETA... and maybe some DELTA, it is by nature a play on VEGA.

    Your exit is and should be based on VEGA as a rule of thumb.

    Hope this helps,

    M~



     
    #10683     Oct 3, 2006
  4. Sailing

    Sailing

    Sorry.... re-read your post... you did mention DD.

    :)
     
    #10684     Oct 3, 2006
  5. Amen brother


    :)
     
    #10685     Oct 3, 2006
  6. So I should be ok with the short 1360 Oct calls then, with 3 weeks to go.
     
    #10686     Oct 3, 2006
  7. Murray
    -10 SPX OCT 1375 CALL -- $0.75 credit
    10 SPX NOV 1400 CALL -- $2.6 Debit
    -10 SPX OCT 1225 PUT -- $075 Credit
    10 SPX NOV 1250 CALL -- $1.4 Debit
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    TOTAL DEBIT: $2.5

    If i play the theta and delta, by the end of Oct expiration, i get to keep the OCT credit ($0.75 + $0.75 = $1.5).

    If i can sell the NOV CALL and PUT for atleast $1, i will break even, right?.




     
    #10687     Oct 3, 2006
  8. Sailing

    Sailing

    Correct,

    Let's assume the shorts will expire worthless... not matter what the market does.

    So, in reality, you're making money on the longs.... and they will increase in value when VEGA increases. You could think of it as selling a short term narrow strangle against a longer term strangle. Your near term strangle is financing the longer term strangle to give you TIME for a VEGA event to occur.

    Mo will like the fact that we're disecting this Double Diagonal.

    M~


    PS. We like to add a few 'TENT' poles (put calendars) along the way during low volatiity periods to help increase return and increase the B.E. window. I recently posted here that we added a 1325 put calendar in the middle of a 1250p/1275p, 1350c/1375c Double Digaonal. The Put Calendar is making some nice extra change right now.


     
    #10688     Oct 3, 2006
  9. Not correct. You need to sell nov call and put for at least $2.5 to break even.
     
    #10689     Oct 4, 2006
  10. Murray,

    Just came back from a long vacation, and there are too many pages to catch up with.

    I knew you and a member in your club are experiencing wide DD. Any discovery?
     
    #10690     Oct 4, 2006