SPX Credit Spread Trader

Discussion in 'Journals' started by El OchoCinco, May 17, 2005.

  1. I see SPX reaching out to 2 short term support areas at 1305 and 1295 if we keep moving lower through the week...
     
    #10211     Sep 19, 2006
  2. Sailing

    Sailing

    dCoach.... got to love Put Diaongals ... and VEGA increase.

    Maybe this entry marks your turn-a-round for market hedge direction changes....

    This could really mess many of us up here now....

    Maybe you should just trade Credit Spreads so we have better market timing entries...

    :)



     
    #10212     Sep 19, 2006
  3. Well to be honest, this is really a straightforward Put Calendar taking advantage of the ES and EW expirations to make multiple adjustments. With 3 steps in between the 1290 strikes I can roll sveral times if needed to reduce the potential loss if the market never moves lower or make a nice profit.

    It might be a nice way to play the puts with small positions here and there and experimenting now with a 1 lot spread. Will maybe work my way up to 10 lots after more tests!

     
    #10213     Sep 19, 2006
  4. Buzo

    Buzo

    Coach,
    Thanks for introducing me to this forum after my discussion with you last week. I have been following this tread and have learnt a lot. I have tried not to ask dumb questions by researching past posts in order to better understand the current discussion. However I need clarification on some of your latest positions.

    1. What is ES and EW
    2. What is EOM Options

    I have a feeling it is a dumb question but your clarification will be appreciated.

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    Quote from optioncoach:

    UPDATE - New Experimental Put Calendar Spread:

    Original Position

    BOUGHT 1 OCT EW 1290 Put @ 12.00 ($600 EOM Options)

    SOLD 1 SEP ES 1290 Put @ 2.50 ($125)

    NeT Debit = $475.00 9.50


    -------> Short SEP ES Put expired worthless.

    Sold 1 SEP EW 1290 Put at 1.00 ($50)

    NEW NET DEBIT = $425.00


    Looking for nice pullback in market for the spread to go up in value. If EW expires worthless, then I will sell a put in the OCT ES cycle and then look to the OCTR EW cycle if needed.
     
    #10214     Sep 19, 2006
  5. welomce and no they are not dumb questions.

    ES is the E-mini S&P futures. The ES I a referring to are the options on the futures. They expire at the same time as regular SPX options.

    The EW are a newer product which are end of the month options. Instead of expiring on the 3rd Friday of the month, they expire on the last trading day of the month. So the EW and EW are the options on futures with different expiration times.

     
    #10215     Sep 19, 2006
  6. Buzo

    Buzo

    Thanks coach

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    welomce and no they are not dumb questions.

    ES is the E-mini S&P futures. The ES I a referring to are the options on the futures. They expire at the same time as regular SPX options.

    The EW are a newer product which are end of the month options. Instead of expiring on the 3rd Friday of the month, they expire on the last trading day of the month. So the EW and EW are the options on futures with different expiration times.
     
    #10216     Sep 19, 2006
  7. Oh crap :eek: Globex on IB crashed as soon as I filled my sell leg of my ES Put Diagonals. But now i can't fill my buy leg as Globex is still down. So i've got naked PUTS as the moment

    But its only two contracts :D Trying to scale in as the market moves around.
     
    #10217     Sep 19, 2006
  8. Sailing

    Sailing

    Just a quick FYI,

    The Put Diagonal Oct1275p/Nov1250p last week could have been purchased for $1.35 debit when VIX was at 10.8

    Today it sells for around $2.45, with VIX around 12.5

    Amazing what a little VEGA does....

    M~



     
    #10218     Sep 19, 2006
  9. tplast

    tplast

    Looks like is going to work out in your favor :D

    Was it only IB? Everything seemed to be moving on slow motion, so maybe GLOBEX itself went down.
     
    #10219     Sep 19, 2006
  10. segv

    segv

    I traded into this spread several times yesterday at $1.80-$2.00 small +edge. I do expect a larger move in the VIX in the next few days.

    -segv
     
    #10220     Sep 19, 2006