SPX Credit Spread Trader

Discussion in 'Journals' started by El OchoCinco, May 17, 2005.

  1. Sailing

    Sailing

    Consider moving those up about 25 pts each....

    M~




     
    #10051     Sep 13, 2006
  2. :D
     
    #10052     Sep 13, 2006
  3. Sailing

    Sailing

    BINGO.... you got it.

    It's like a WIN-WIN...

    Too many people buy Call Calendars... (which i used to do a lot of and was successful trading when the VIX was in the 20's)... but you get hurt as the volatility bleeds out against the direction you would predicted the movement to make.

    It's hard enough predicting market direction, but then fight volatility also... No Thanks.

    The Put Diagonal or Double Diagonal placed at low volatility levels, doesn't necessarily guarantee profit, but it sure puts the ODDs (VEGA, THETA, DELTA) in your favor.... and I like those ODDS alot.

    Murray



     
    #10053     Sep 13, 2006
  4. M, sorry..what do you mean by move up by 25 points..r u saying 1250/1270 or 1200/1220..

    Thanks
    MK
     
    #10054     Sep 13, 2006
  5. mantenar

    mantenar

    I have Sep 1250 put / Oct 1225 put spread. I opened this trade when SPX was 1293. Now, I have a loss of 600. I have the following adjustment options.

    1. Sell the whole spread and take a lose of 625.

    2. Convert into bull put spread 1235/1225

    3. Convert into Bear put spread 1215/1225.

    4. Sell 1225 put when there is small correction in SPX after exipration.


    I know the best option depends upon the market direction. I want to get your thoughts on this.
     
    #10055     Sep 13, 2006
  6. An update on my rut DD.

    Sep/Oct 670/630 P @ debit of 0.4. Now I can close for a credit of 1.0.
    Sep/Dec 740/800 C @ debit of 2.3. With this multiroll diagonal, I can close it for a credit of 5.2, or sell the Oct 760 for a credit of 5.6. I still haven't decided how to adjust it. Any suggestions?
     
    #10056     Sep 13, 2006
  7. ryank

    ryank

    You must be reading my mind. I have been looking at the following strikes for Oct/Nov

    Oct 1275p/Nov 1250p
    Oct 1310c/Nov 1300c
    Oct 1350c/Nov 1375c (possibly for a credit)

    Cutting it close on the calls this way, still in the thinking stages.
     
    #10057     Sep 13, 2006
  8. ryank

    ryank

    Options 2 puts you 2SD away from the market, something to look at if the credit is decent.
     
    #10058     Sep 13, 2006
  9. not much volume in the EOM SEP SPY options but decided to try a diag..ratioed

    STO 20 EOM SEP SPY 129 puts
    BTO 25 OCT 128 SPY puts

    debt on the 20 sep/oct puts .35 and paid .75 for each OCT extra put
     
    #10059     Sep 13, 2006
  10. Prevail

    Prevail Guest

    trading for gains in theta is generally predicting where the market will not go. trading for gains in vega is generally predicting where the market will go, due to the vix/vxo high negative correlation to the sp.

    the benefits of being short theta and long/neutral vega are immense, ie a calendar on the put side. when predicting market direction there are countless more efficient ways to trade it than calendars.

    my 2 cents to keep the eye on the ball, so to speak, is to keep the eye on theta. use theta decay as an anchor, which is why this thread began, then develop the best trade structure to pull that theta down and maintain risk levels.
     
    #10060     Sep 13, 2006