SpreadProfessor Clients - Thanks !

Discussion in 'Announcements' started by bone, Sep 19, 2014.

  1. it says those days were options...most likely they were blocked, the last time a future traded was December 31st
     
    #561     Feb 9, 2015
  2. bone

    bone

    There will be no group webinar tonight, but I have held several individual webinar meetings with clients over the week, and will continue to do so. Any client desiring a meeting to review something, or to just say hello and catch up on things – please email me and I’m more than happy to schedule something.
     
    #562     Feb 12, 2015
  3. feyri

    feyri

    Just FYI... ICE do have listed "Heat Rate Spreads" that you can execute as spreads and they will give you underlying positions in the power contract and Henry Hub. As far as I know these contracts do not and have not traded on screen in a long time though. When they were initially launched several years ago though they did actually trade on screen. Of course back then they were legally OTC contracts and required you to be a ECP under the CEA.

    A simple google search for "ICE Heat Rate Spread" will yield documents from both ICE and Trading Technologies explaining the (rather complicated) methodology for determining the quantity of Natural Gas on the Gas leg for each 50MW of power. (Remember your trading a Heat Rate not a Spark Spread).

    With regards to Power in general, as previously mentioned by others, ICE is the place to go in order to trade on-screen rather than Globex, but even there liquidity is less than OTC.
     
    #563     Feb 12, 2015
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  4. Gambit

    Gambit

    So if there is less liquidity on screen, it is reasonable to assume that one cannot get better prices on screen than via OTC.
     
    #564     Feb 12, 2015
  5. this is what I thought, even If you traded power on web-ice, you would be able to get the open interest and electronic data from their website, but not tick data....and when I looked on the ice web-site it was very clear that there was very lil volume going through.

    when I spoke to market professionals, they all told me the samething you confirmed..but believing what was posted here, I went on a wild goose chase to find the electronic contract so I can trade it myself.

    tks for clearing it up..
     
    #565     Feb 13, 2015
  6. bone

    bone

    Great post. And, just to clarify, you are referring to an ICE exchange-supported spread versus the act of the trader manually via broker and/or electronically on the screen legging into and out of a heat rate spread using financially cleared Power and Nat Gas Swap contracts. I agree that the ICE heat rate exchange supported spread did not trade much to speak of for a number of reasons.
     
    #566     Feb 13, 2015
  7. bone

    bone

    ICE Softs Sugar Condor taken as a buy:

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    #567     Feb 20, 2015
  8. bone

    bone

    Soybean Meal Butterfly taken as a buy:

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    #568     Feb 20, 2015
  9. bone

    bone

    Euribor Butterfly taken as a sell:
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    #569     Feb 20, 2015
  10. bone

    bone

    I'd like to welcome another new client to the program.
     
    #570     Mar 20, 2015