Spread The Wealth For Idiots - Defined

Discussion in 'Politics' started by TT1, Oct 28, 2008.

  1. Gord

    Gord

    LOL!
     
    #101     Oct 31, 2008
  2. Gord

    Gord

    Hey icebrain - did they teach about the Obama scoundrel list and the Obama secrecy list in your 8th grade classes today? [​IMG]
     
    #102     Oct 31, 2008
  3. Yannis

    Yannis

    What I can't figure out is why so many Americans don't feel deeply offended that a few puppetmasters are promoting this inexperienced candidate (with many racist, cruel and Anti-American tendencies) so shamelessly: essentially infinite amounts of cash, most major media marching to his campaign's orders, the reputation of everyone who opposes him getting hurt, etc etc.

    That's the puzzle that I'm grappling with: what's happening to the American spirit? What happened to our sense of fairness? How are we "changing"? What's going on with our values? http://it.youtube.com/watch?v=vW2iZ1pD2G4

    My theory is that the troubling mess goes deeper than money and media coverage: every society/economy has its creators and those who just live off it, and Obama is energizing the latter negatively at the expense of the former. Too bad... :(
     
    #103     Oct 31, 2008
  4. Yannis

    Yannis

    Comrade Obama?
    by Patrick J. Buchanan


    "If Barack Obama is not a socialist, he does the best imitation of one I've ever seen.

    Under his tax plan, the top 5 percent of wage-earners have their income tax rates raised from 35 percent to 40 percent, while the bottom 40 percent of all wage-earners, who pay no income tax, are sent federal checks.

    If this is not the socialist redistribution of wealth, what is it?

    A steeply graduated income tax has always been the preferred weapon of the left for bringing about socialist equality. Indeed, in the "Communist Manifesto" of 1848, Karl Marx was himself among the first to call for "a heavy progressive or graduated income tax."

    The Obama tax plan is pure Robin Hood class warfare: Use the tax power of the state to rob the successful and reward the faithful. Only in Sherwood Forest it was assumed the Sheriff of Nottingham and his crowd had garnered their wealth by other than honest labor.

    "Spread the wealth," Barack admonished Joe the Plumber.

    "From each according to his ability, to each according to his need," said old Karl in 1875. When Barbara West of WFTV in Orlando, Fla., put the Marx quote to Biden, however, Joe recoiled in spluttering disbelief.

    West: "You may recognize this famous quote: 'From each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs.' That's from Karl Marx. How is Sen. Obama not being a Marxist if he intends to spread the wealth around?"

    Biden: "Are you joking? Is this a joke?"

    Biden's better defense, however, might have be the "Tu quoque!" retort: "You, too!" -- the time-honored counter-charge of hypocrisy.

    Indeed, how do Republicans who call Obama a socialist explain their support for Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, food stamps, welfare and the Earned Income Tax Credit? What are these if not government-mandated transfers of wealth to the middle and working class, and the indigent and working poor?

    Since August, the Bush-Paulson team has seized our biggest S&L, Washington Mutual, and largest insurance company, AIG. It has nationalized Fannie and Freddie, pumped scores of billions into our banks, bailed out GM, Ford and Chrysler, and paid the $29 billion dowry for Bear Stearns to enter its shotgun marriage with JPMorgan Chase.

    And with federal, state and local taxes taking a third of gross domestic product, and government regulating businesses with wage-and-hour laws, civil rights laws, environmental laws, and occupational health and safety laws, what are we living under, if not a mixed socialist-capitalist system?

    Norman Thomas is said to have quit running for president on the Socialist ticket after six campaigns because the Democratic Party had stolen all his ideas and written them into its platforms.

    Did Ike repeal the New Deal? Did Richard Nixon roll back the Great Society? Nope. He funded the Great Society. Did Ronald Reagan cut federal spending? Nope, defense spending soared. Bill Clinton slashed defense, but George Bush II set social spending records with No Child Left Behind and prescription drug benefits for the elderly under Medicare. Surpluses vanished, deficits returned, the national debt almost doubled.

    Is the old republic then dead and gone, in the irretrievable past? Are we engaged in an argument settled before we were born?

    In his 1938 essay "The Revolution Was," Garet Garrett wrote:

    "There are those who think they are holding the pass against a revolution that may be coming up the road. But they are gazing in the wrong direction. The revolution is behind them. It went by in the Night of the Depression, singing songs to freedom."

    Nevertheless, there is a difference not just of degree but of kind between unemployment compensation for jobless workers, welfare for destitute families, and confiscating the income of taxpayers who earned it -- to hand out to chronic tax consumers who did not.

    This last is the socialism Winston Churchill called "the philosophy of envy and gospel of greed." And it is this suggestion of socialist ideology in Obama's words that has produced the belated pause by a nation that seemed to be moving into his camp. What did Barack say in 2001?

    He spoke of the inadequacy of the courts as institutions to bring about "redistributive change" in society, of the "tragedy" of the civil rights movement in losing sight of the "political and organizing activities on the ground that are able to bring about the coalitions of power through which you bring about redistributive change."

    Normal people don't talk like that. Socialists do.

    This is ideology speaking. This is the redistributionist drivel one hears from cosseted college radicals and the "Marxist professors" Obama says in his memoir he sought out at the university. It is the language of social parasites like William Ayers, Bernardine Dohrn and Father Pfleger.

    Enforced egalitarianism entails the death of excellence. For it seizes the rewards that excellence earns and turns them over to politicians and bureaucrats for distribution to the mediocrities upon whose votes they depend. One need not be Ayn Rand to see that Barack has picked up from past associates utopian notions that have ever produced nightmare states."
     
    #104     Oct 31, 2008
  5. "And Alaska—we’re set up, unlike other states in the union, where it’s collectively Alaskans own the resources. So we share in the wealth when the development of these resources occurs. … It’s to maximize benefits for Alaskans, not an individual company, not some multinational somewhere, but for Alaskans."


    Sarah Palin on her tax on oil companies that allowed the state to cut her family a 24K+ check.
     
    #105     Oct 31, 2008
  6. Yannis

    Yannis

    So, they lease their land to oil companies and get a royalty, so what? She drove a hard bargain and got a good price. Yeah, Sarah!!! :)
     
    #106     Oct 31, 2008
  7. http://firedoglake.com/2008/10/29/woops-mccain-funded-rashid-khalidi/

    Woops. Indeed.
     
    #107     Oct 31, 2008
  8. Yannis

    Here's the good news: you are NOT in the top ten of complete morons bigots and ignorance on this forum.

    Here's the bad news: You are NUMBER ELEVEN!

    You know why? Because the statment you just made can be equally applied to Palin although hypos (short for hypocrite) like you will say "but mommie she is ONLY running for VP not Prez".

    Only problem with that logic is IF McCain was 46 years old I would agree even with a No.11 retard like you, but since he is 73 almost and in remission from cancer; which means to anyone who is not a lunatic like the top ten on this forum that AT ANY MINUTE he could become sick and have to resign.

    Ok, this is the last post I can make until Wednesday. I just cannot stomach dealing with a small bunch of retards and inflexible right-wing narrow-minded a-wipes who I have rarely heard, if ever, concede ONE good thing about Obama or anyone who is not of the exact same viewpoint as them! It makes me want to vomit.

    I hope after Obama wins that you will move out of the Country.
     
    #108     Oct 31, 2008
  9. Gord

    Gord

    I suppose you think this excuses Obama from his literally dozens of unscrupulous associations. That's sort of like adding one plus one and getting 374,456,389.

    The whole point of the tape is not just that Obama was there. It is what is reported to be on the tape as in anti-Semitic statements that Obama is seen applauding. When you can find somewhere McCain applauding anti-Semitic statements, then we can talk.

    But not to worry, I'm sure it is all innocent, just like everything else he so desperately keeps secret in his life... [​IMG]
     
    #109     Oct 31, 2008
  10. Gord

    Gord

    Well if you could just name "ONE good thing" it certainly would be a tipping point... [​IMG]
     
    #110     Oct 31, 2008