"spirituality" videos - Part II

Discussion in 'Chit Chat' started by smallStops, May 1, 2013.

  1. I am just going to list some issues/themes I see associated to it first:

    - financial differences can create pain in relationships and friendships
    - wealth can reveal strong feelings and judgements, positive or negative about own or other people's money
    - fear of being loved or rejected for your money
    - issue of relationship based on dishonesty from the start:
    obviously people will not reveal that it is your money they are after.lol.
    - trust issues appear
    - Money can cloud people's perceptions : are people nice to you in order to receive money? Or do they love you for who you are?
    - threat of undue exposure
    - threat that in case of break up, your financial life will not be kept private.

    Quiet interesting that the coach is asking to look to how one view wealth and relationships/people's issues.
     
    #261     Jun 19, 2013
  2. I guess as trading is all about money, some unsupporting belief about money can really create problems when trading.
     
    #262     Jun 19, 2013
  3. at the core is fear of other people's reactions.

    I am just realising that just studying this makes me feel very uncomfortable... as I am now understanding how some lazy asshole seemed just so obsessed about accessing other people's money; and be ready to ruin any relationships out there just to have "access" to the "heartbroken" people' wallet. Really ugly stuff. :mad:
     
    #263     Jun 19, 2013
  4. Makes sense now... trading really can brings with it tons of problems just because trading is a game whose scoring is directly money.
    Really messes up things for those who just like trading per se.
     
    #264     Jun 19, 2013
  5. what a bunch of fucking assholes these 3 clowns were.
    At least they wasted their time. lol. :cool:
     
    #265     Jun 19, 2013
  6. Just thinking of these future sports champions. They really do not care about the money : the wea girl was just happy to run as fast as she could, the wea boys just glad to be shooting some goals, the gym team to be doing some perfect exercises... They are just into enjoying and having fun with whatever passion they have. They only see the passion of the game, the adults around already see the $$$$$$$ on each kid!

    can generate the belief : "people will only love me for my money".
    However, when discussing with one of the kids' fathers, and asking if they will have a "big head", he replied; No not at all. They know they will be on the podium one day. It is not about having big head or ego, it is about being the best.
    Only the mediocre talk about arrogance.
    The best talk about [it]becoming[/it] the best
    .
    Even the Dad does not talk about the money: the money is just a byproduct, not the end on itself.
     
    #266     Jun 19, 2013
  7. I am now starting to understand why high performers get it "wrong": being so focussed on doing what they love doing,
    no time to really think hard on the issues of
    people's reactions to wealth.
    I guess I have seen too much of the "wrong" type of reactions
    - growing up AND as an adult- that somewhere I think I just lived in denial of thinking of people's reactions to money. Thank you coaching for getting me to really look deep into that.

    One would think that as a trader, that's a subject that will be fully covered! Ben non! I only spent my time trading, enjoying trading, understanding the game! Even when I say I am just interesting in collecting the money, I only see it as collecting the coins, notes, as a game. Trading "chips" is money, so I deal and collect money. But never really spent time thinking of these issues of people's reactions to wealth.
    What I have seen are:
    - lies and manipulations
    - jealousy
    - envy
    - desire to rob
    - desire to manipulate
    - strange "joy" with an expectation of a blank check
    - dishonesty
    It's quiet sad, but my experience is that people's reactions to wealth has only been negative. The worse case being the 3 clowns who really sum it up in the worse way : no respect for the feelings or rights of others as if whoever has money owed them something. Fake smile and interest in the person doing well. Actually just checking/finding out. Seeing and feeling undercurrent of aggressive rage and abuse as they felt I was the barrier to them putting their hands on wealth. Really ugly.
    I remember one girl telling me one lad asking aggressively "why women do not pay for sex?". My advice was to tell her , just say
    "if I were to stand on the corner, people would pay me for sex". lol.
     
    #267     Jun 19, 2013
  8. I suppose I saw firsthand that "some people hate people who are richer than themselves".
    Some to the point they'll try and do anything to rob, steal or try to destroy someone's wealth.

    I'll also say the hate is even more when the person does not care about money per se. really interesting. May be this projects back to them their "deficiencies". Really funny how bad losers in life, beauty, money,... operate. because they are deficients, their only hope is to look to destroy. :eek:
     
    #268     Jun 19, 2013
  9. I am really wondering, where on earth did the lunatic find these types of monsters who should be in some "institutions" :confused:
     
    #269     Jun 19, 2013
  10. I am also realising that in all the examples of bad people's reactions to someone's else wealth or good things, is the projection on the other of their own deficiencies. These deficient people are actually arrogant, because deep down they are well deficient ( ugly - external deficiency, whore - moral deficiency, ...). So would love the object that projects to them how deficient they are to be less ( aka ugly, whore, arrogant, ....).
    I suppose to see what they sacrificed ( body, ....) for actually some money, and see someone else not sacrificing those same things, but being able to get more than they do, must really hurt the ego very very very deeply. :D :D :D
     
    #270     Jun 19, 2013