Speaker of the House is Vacated - What Next?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by UsualName, Oct 3, 2023.

  1. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    MAGAtards plz
     
    #221     Oct 18, 2023
  2. vanzandt

    vanzandt

    Try to stay on topic.
    ~case closed
     
    #222     Oct 18, 2023
  3. Dunno....but if they bring in anyone from the outside most likely it would be Lee Zelden and that seems to not be gaining traction. But then again, no one else is either.

    I speculated the other day that Congressman Mike Johnson from Luzzyanna might surface at some point to see if he wants to run the gauntlet. It certainly is a possibility but probably not a strong one. But he could surface to be harpooned before it is over.

    Pompeo is off working toward being Youngkin's chief of staff or maybe even Secretary of State again.

    A few of the dems might cross over to support a short term appointment of the speaker pro temp to get them through the budget approval period to avoid a shutdown type of thing. Some more pubs might support him as well for that.

    Also, under the heading of Coming Events, if (less than a 50-50 chance but nevertheless) Youngkin runs, expect Tulsi Gabbard to join his campaign. An oddball fit-you might say. Not really. She has experience and energy for relating to dems that want to jump ship. So does Youngkin.

    Okay. I digressed a little I guess.

     
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    #223     Oct 18, 2023
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  4. UsualName

    UsualName

    Opinion: At this point the house republicans are really running up against the clock with an invasion of Gaza imminent. Jim Jordan obviously isn’t the right guy for this moment in time. Something needs to break in the house soon.
     
    #224     Oct 18, 2023
  5. vanzandt

    vanzandt

    I'll stay tuned for your commentary on this.

    Hey and fwiw... and you ain't gonna like this lol.... because I know you like him... but you have to look at the average American. Know what your boy Youngkin is missing? No one knows who the f he is. And that is not a slam on you.... but Americans love the popularity game. He could be the holy grail... but in this day and age.... he's toast without a strong social media buzz. If he can get the bucks and overcome that.... his Nov 7 coming out party might work. Odds are, it's not happening though. Ask your run of the mill pub to pull his face out of a lineup.... pretty sure they can't. You give people too much credit assuming they are as into this stuff as you are. Which is a a compliment by the way.
     
    #225     Oct 18, 2023
  6. Oh, his uphill battle and being an unknown entity are very strong points working against him.

    Having said that, I look at two other factors as well.

    1) If ever there was a time in history where the voting population is puking over the ones that are known, it is now. Trump has his ever-Trumpers and I acknowledge that but outside of that - amongst the both the dems and pubs- there is a visceral bone deep hunger for something beyond what is currently on the playing field. Most candidates are suffering from the problem of being known. Being known is not always all it is cracked up to be. The more many voters see of Desantis the less they like and how much more of Chris Christie will people need to see of him to get him from one percent to two or three? Yawn. And the more people see of Tim Scott, the more they like him, but not for president. So on and so forth.

    2) Don't ever forget that Youngkin was an unknown in Virginia politics and had no political experience when he defeated the entire full force of the Clinton machine to beat McAuliffe and flip the governorship from blue to red. Not a trick for viewers to try at home. The DNC and Hollywood put every dime they had into trying to take him down when he ran for governor.

    I say only that he is a formidable foe for the field to deal with if he enters. His strategy assumes or recognizes that the early stuff such as the first couple debates, and early campaigns of others are pretty much getting them nowhere and he is right on that.

    As always, I say that wherever we end out, this election cycle will be Rumsfeldian in that the presumption will be that it is going to just be Trump/Biden all the way to the end. Nope. Something unknown, unknown is brewing.

    As discussed ad naseum though, he needs to flip the upper house in Virginia and get a good result for republicans and for himself in the Virginia Nov 7 election or his game falters. He needs those feathers in his cap to spin the message he wants to spin.
     
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    #226     Oct 18, 2023
  7. vanzandt

    vanzandt

    I agree. I watched him win the governorship.

    We'll stay tuned.
    But never underestimate the dumbed-down-ed-ness of the typical ballot caster.
     
    #227     Oct 18, 2023
  8. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Just a reminder -- Jim Jordan and the MAGA crowd using death threats and intimidation to seize government positions is very much on topic -- because this is how authoritarians operate. It's not that Jordan is winning the Speaker position based on his non-existent legislative record --- it's just that GOP has no backbone to resist the intimidation from the Trumper crowd. Let's take a look at what else the Jordan crowd has been up to.

    MAGA Goons Threaten Wives of Anti-Jordan Republicans
    Who is behind these threatening texts to the wives of Jordan holdout Republicans?
    https://www.meidastouch.com/news/maga-goons-threaten-wives-of-anti-jordan-republicans
     
    #228     Oct 18, 2023
  9. vanzandt

    vanzandt

    Ya know.... it is like that article you posted yesterday. About the wives receiving death threats or whatever. . It was 1000% left leaning. You can find anything on the web to suit your narrative.

    Up next.... Elon demands two factor identification for $1 accounts.
     
    #229     Oct 18, 2023

  10. Yep.
     
    #230     Oct 18, 2023