Spanish89- Opportunist Trades (2nd journal)

Discussion in 'Journals' started by spanish89, Aug 2, 2011.

  1. usman88

    usman88

    Ok lets see where the market goes from $98. Lets suppose you are long and I am short. Lets come back in a week and see where the market is :)
     
    #221     Nov 11, 2011
  2. NoDoji

    NoDoji

    I'm an intraday scalper both directions, but let's say, for the sake of trend-following argument, that I held the long position I put on @ 95.03 when the shallowest support level held and the inventory report drove price up. I'm now more than 3 points in the green. I have the luxury of taking some profit off the table and/or trailing a stop.

    Spanish doesn't have either luxury because he's fighting the trend in his trading time frame and is in the red.
     
    #222     Nov 11, 2011
  3. you also have the luxury of making your Long call after the fact... :cool:
     
    #223     Nov 11, 2011
  4. NoDoji

    NoDoji

    Yeah, true, and if I post a blotter, it's photoshopped.

    And if I ask my trading roomies to vouch for me, I paid them.



    :D
     
    #224     Nov 11, 2011
  5. usman88

    usman88

    1)I am talking about going long/short from current market rate which was $98 a couple of hours back (You already are 100 ticks in profit but thats not we are talking about here)

    2)Let me clarify. My exact statement is

    "Market will hit a ceiling of around $100 by teusday after which it will hang around $97-$99 for 1/2 days. Probably on Friday or next Monday we should see a $3-$5 drop after which downtrend should be established. Then within 4-5 working days we would head towards $91 which would be a major testing are"

    Lets see if I was correct or not next week :)

    This btw not just a statement. I made some shorts right now at $99 in the Jan12
     
    #225     Nov 11, 2011
  6. whether you have placed a real trade at that level is besides the point. you only mention it AFTER it is 3-4% in the green. and then you say that you have the luxury, blah, blah, blah...

    had oil reversed you would you have come out to this thread and reported your loss?
     
    #226     Nov 11, 2011
  7. Can only pop into this thread and check the market after work has finished at the moment :(

    I bought the ES before work which turned out nice, netting me £750 although have been filled short on oil at 98.30 (spreadbet equivilent) whilst at work, which is currently losing me £220.

    What is your current loss on this oil trade if you are still in it, Spanish?

    Hope it comes good for you.
    Good luck
     
    #227     Nov 11, 2011


  8. listen... i have no idea where CL will go. But your reasoning is NO basis for shorting unless you have deep pockets. Now, If I saw a key reversal (outside bar) and it was confirmed - - - I would back up the truck. lol

    but unless there is a break of some major support or a key reversal/blowoff and the like - - - I can never understand picking a bottom or a top.

    Wait... oh yes I can... years ago I lost a lot when I first started in the early 90s trying to be smarter than the market. After my arse healed I learned to never pick a top or bottom... better to sell after confirmation of trend reversal (and vice versa on buying) than to jump in with a dartboard trying to "reason" what will be a interim top!!

    Buy high and sell higher + sell low and buy lower

    -not-

    only sell at top and buy at the bottoms
     
    #228     Nov 11, 2011
  9. that said...

    I am going to take a shot shorting CL sometime later this year. LOL

    Think we could see a quick reversal at some point... just hate to short during Thanksgiving time-frame. Never been a good time to short much, to my recollection. Furthermore i find it hard to see CL going lower while DOW and NDX etc. are higher. If it does it won't likely be a trend reversal yet. I don't know CL market but I would bet they trade in tandem to a large extent.

    Meanwhile I might take a look at CL chart and jump in long if we get a PB to support. Not familiar with chart but might be a few points to scalp while I pass the time watching theta come off my front month options.
     
    #229     Nov 11, 2011
  10. that reasoning will absolutely blow up your account if done long enough.

    Let's say in a week you have some profits - - - does that mean your reasoning for entering against the trend makes sense.

    I think not!

    I can see shorting CL and owning some OIH or SLB calls and the like.

    b.t.w I trade OIH and SLB. Been buying and selling calls for +$, on SLB and OIH.. and shorting puts, for past 2-3 weeks! Just closed SLB Nov 75p today.
     
    #230     Nov 11, 2011