Spain, Poland, Italy involvment in iraq

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Benett, Mar 15, 2004.

  1. Benett


    all of these countries sent troops despite big popular opposition to the deployment. the usa loudly announced that their cooperation wil be greatly "rewarded" instead they all got fuc.. in on Iraqi rebuilding contracts and now they get another reward in terms of terrorism.

    one might wonder why the USA toghether with Israel are so well liked around the world....................
  2. bebe


  3. Benett


    there are much bigger threats and attrocities around the world.
  4. Maybe thanks to the divine intervention of Sir Rumsfeld :

    This column stands foursquare with the Honorable Donald H. Rumsfeld, U.S. Secretary of Defense, when he warns that there will be more terrorist attacks against the American people and civilization at large. We know, as does the Honorable Donald H. Rumsfeld, U.S. Secretary of Defense, that this statement is an incontrovertible fact, a matter of scientific certainty. And how can we and the Honorable Donald H. Rumsfeld, U.S. Secretary of Defense, be so sure that there will be more terrorist attacks against the American people and civilization at large?

    Because these attacks will be instigated at the order of the Honorable Donald H. Rumsfeld, U.S. Secretary of Defense.

    This astonishing admission was buried deep in a story which was itself submerged by mounds of gray newsprint and glossy underwear ads in last Sunday's Los Angeles Times. There--in an article by military analyst William Arkin, detailing the vast expansion of the secret armies being massed by the former Nixon bureaucrat now lording it over the Pentagon--came the revelation of Rumsfeld's plan to create "a super-Intelligence Support Activity" that will "bring together CIA and military covert action, information warfare, intelligence, and cover and deception."

    According to a classified document prepared for Rumsfeld by his Defense Science Board, the new organization--the "Proactive, Preemptive Operations Group (P2OG)"--will carry out secret missions designed to "stimulate reactions" among terrorist groups, provoking them into committing violent acts which would then expose them to "counterattack" by U.S. forces.

    In other words--and let's say this plainly, clearly and soberly, so that no one can mistake the intention of Rumsfeld's plan--the United States government is planning to use "cover and deception" and secret military operations to provoke murderous terrorist attacks on innocent people. Let's say it again: Donald Rumsfeld, Dick Cheney, George W. Bush and the other members of the unelected regime in Washington plan to deliberately foment the murder of innocent people--your family, your friends, your lovers, you--in order to further their geopolitical ambitions.
  5. .. and during the 70s and 80s - who was it who supplied him with arms and military technology (even chemical weapons info) & support to fight against Iran again ?

    They must have been of the less foreseeing part of the gene-pool.

    Harry, as far as I remember Donald was involved with Iraq in his earlier years as well ? The irony ..
  6. bebe


    "there are much bigger threats and attrocities around the world"

    Exactly that's what the Europeans were saying when Hitler started out. He was considered "an innocent house painter". You know the end of the story.
  7. quant


    Saddam Hussein was just one of the too many dictators in the last 50years the USA colluded with for its own $$$ and geopolitical interests.

    A few other examples:
    Chile (Sept 11, 1973) Pinochet supported & assisted by Kissinger/CIA for the sake of a couple of US Mining Corporations, resulted in 30,000 deaths.

    Then we have Cambodia, Guatemala, Iran, El Salvador, etc, I won´t even try to list them all.

    Back to Saddam:

    In 1959, Saddam Hussein was shot in the leg during a US-backed assassination attempt on the Soviet-aligned Prime Minister of Iraq. He was evacuated under US diplomatic cover to Syria, and eventually made his way to Cairo, where he spent the next three years studying law. His studies were funded by the Cairo "station" of the CIA.

    In 1963, he returned to Iraq with the assistance of the US Sate Department, after a CIA sponsored coup which briefly brought the Ba'ath party to power. In 1968, Saddam's uncle became the ruler of Iraq after the Ba'ath party, again with the backing of the CIA, seized power.

    Saddam took control of the secret police, who were supplied with intelligence by the CIA on the activities of the communist party and socialist elements within the Ba'ath party. The purges conducted using the information supplied by the CIA allowed Saddam to ensure that he was well positioned to inherit the presidency from his uncle in 1979.

    During the early 1980's, Saddam consolidated his power by using CIA-supplied databases to identify and eliminate most of the remaining members of the communist party, which represented the major resistance force against Saddam's rule.

    see also the article:
    "U.S. Had Key Role in Iraq Buildup Trade in Chemical Arms Allowed Despite Their Use on Iranians, Kurds" - which appeared in the Washingtonpost --

    Oh, and speaking of mass murder:

    A 1995 U.N. Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO) report estimates that 567,000 Iraqi children under the age of five had died as a result of the U.S.-forced sanctions.

    Then-Secretary of State Madeleine Albright's quote, "We Think the Price Is Worth It", calmly asserted that U.S. policy objectives were worth the sacrifice of half a million Arab children.
  8. bebe


    VERY bad logic! Would you blame a mother for giving birth to a serial killer? Who is to be blamed: the mother or the son who became a bastard years later?
  9. He wasn't a bastard dictator before ? What was the logic flaw again ? And who's blaming Saddam's late (?) mother ?
  10. quant


    Your reasoning skills are indeed very flawed.
    Rather than being a mother, the USA was creating little Frankensteins knowingly that these creatures would wreak havoc and destruction. Helping the people of Iraq was never one of reasons of going to war with Iraq, it's merely used as part of a modern marketing strategy to make selling of going to war easier to swallow by the naive masses, including the moronic flag waving, heel-clicking automatons.
    #10     Mar 15, 2004