Sorry, another Covid thread :-)

Discussion in 'Chit Chat' started by BKR88, Sep 14, 2021.

  1. BKR88

    BKR88

     
    #681     Oct 20, 2023
  2. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    You are pushing more fake nonsense that has already been widely debunked as complete crap.

    Fact Check:
    Japan Confirmed All COVID Variants Were Engineered?!
    https://www.techarp.com/science/japan-covid-variants-engineered/

    Truth : Japan Did Not Confirm COVID Variants Were Engineered!
    This is yet another example of FAKE NEWS about COVID-19 and the SARS-CoV-2 virus, and here are the reasons why…

    Fact #1 : Study Does Not Appear To Be Official / Peer-Reviewed

    First, let me just direct you to the study – Unnatural evolutionary processes of SARS-CoV-2 variants and possibility of deliberate natural selection, which you can read for yourself here.

    This is not an official study conducted by the Japanese government, or its agencies. Neither does this study appear to be published or peer-reviewed by any journal.

    This study appears to be only “published” in Zenodo on August 15, 2023. Zenodo is not a journal though, but a general-purpose open repository for research papers, data sets, and other research-related digital files.

    Zenodo (https://zenodo.org) is an open repository for all scholarship, enabling researchers from all disciplines to share and preserve their research outputs, regardless of size or format.

    While this does not mean that the study is rubbish, it is important for the study to be at least pass the peer-review process, which is itself merely the first step in any scientific research review process.

    Fact #2 : Study Only Looked At Omicron Variants

    While The People’s Voice article claimed that the study “concluded that all Covid variants were engineered in biolabs“, that is simply not the case. For one thing – the study only looked at Omicron variants.

    In this study, we aimed to clarify the evolutionary processes leading to the formation of SARS-CoV-2 Omicron variants, focusing on Omicron variants with many amino acid mutations in the spike protein among SARS-CoV-2 isolates.

    The study authors certainly never concluded that “all Covid variants were engineered in biolabs“.

    Fact #3 : Study Never Said COVID-19 Was Artificially Created

    While The People’s Voice article claimed that the study “concluded that all Covid variants were engineered in biolabs“, that is also not the case.

    The authors pointed out in their study (PDF download) that they “do not conclude” that the SARS-CoV-2 virus was “artificially synthesized”.

    Furthermore, we do not conclude that these viruses were artificially synthesized…

    In addition, the authors went to some length to point out that it is impossible to know if the original SARS-CoV-2 virus was natural or artificial.

    It has been claimed that SARS-CoV-2 is artificially generated because of the unnatural presence of a codon (CGG) encoding a contiguous arginine at the furin cleavage site of SARS-CoV-2. This claim is refuted based on the following facts;

    1) there is no logical reason for a genetically engineered virus to utilize such a suboptimal furin cleavage site.

    2) The only previous study on artificial insertion of furin cleavage sites at the S1/S2 boundary of the S protein of SARS-CoV-1 using the pseudotype virus experimental system utilized the optimal “RRSRR” sequence, which is different from the furin cleavage site’s sequence present in SARS-CoV-2.

    3) There is also no evidence of previous studies at the Wuhan Institute of Virology that artificially inserted a complete furin cleavage site in coronaviruses.

    4) Unnatural CGG codons adjacent to the arginine at the furin cleavage site are rare in coronaviruses but are observed at a particular frequency in SARS-CoV-1, SARS-CoV-2, and other human coronaviruses.

    It has been claimed that SARS-CoV-2 is artificially generated because of the unnatural presence of a codon (CGG) encoding a contiguous arginine at the furin cleavage site of SARS-CoV-2. This claim is refuted based on the following facts;

    1) there is no logical reason for a genetically engineered virus to utilize such a suboptimal furin cleavage site.

    2) The only previous study on artificial insertion of furin cleavage sites at the S1/S2 boundary of the S protein of SARS-CoV-1 using the pseudotype virus experimental system utilized the optimal “RRSRR” sequence, which is different from the furin cleavage site’s sequence present in SARS-CoV-2.

    3) There is also no evidence of previous studies at the Wuhan Institute of Virology that artificially inserted a complete furin cleavage site in coronaviruses.

    4) Unnatural CGG codons adjacent to the arginine at the furin cleavage site are rare in coronaviruses but are observed at a particular frequency in SARS-CoV-1, SARS-CoV-2, and other human coronaviruses.

    However, these are only declarations and are illogical. No one explained why a naturally occurring virus would utilize a suboptimal furin cleavage site. It has not been mentioned about technically possible to insert this furin cleavage site or a CGG codon artificially. Inserting a polybasic furin cleavage site on the S protein makes it impossible to conclude whether SARS-CoV-2 is a naturally occurring or artificial virus by discussing whether it is natural or artificial.

    Fact #4 : Study Never Said COVID-19 Was Intentionally Released

    The People’s Voice article also claimed that the study “concluded that all Covid variants” were “intentionally released into the public“. Again, that is not the case.

    The authors pointed out in their study (PDF download) that they “do not conclude” that the SARS-CoV-2 virus was “distributed based on malicious intent”.

    … we do not conclude that these viruses were … distributed based on malicious intent.

    Fact #5 : Study Hypothesises Gain-of-Function Creation Of Omicron

    The study authors are hypothesising that the Omicron variants may have been artificially synthesised, based on their finding that “most of the mutations” in the S protein of the Omicron variants “are non-synonymous“, which they claim is “highly unnatural“.

    The authors suggested that the mutations may have been “artificially generated to identify amino acids of the S protein involved in the infectivity and virulence” of the coronavirus.

    While the authors did not explicitly say so, they are suggesting that the Omicron variant may have been introduced as an accidental lab leak of gain-of-function research into SARS-CoV-2.

    Fact #6 : Study Called For Further Research

    Rather that coming to the conclusion that “all Covid variants were engineered in biolabs and intentionally released into the public” as claimed by The People’s Voice article, the authors pointed out that their study had some weaknesses:
    • their databases had “a limited number of viral sequences”, and
    • their data may be unreliable due to “technical problems in sequencing or some malicious intent”
    As such, their paper aims to “point out” that the SARS-CoV-2 virus has undergone “unthinkable mutations under conventional coronavirus mutation mechanisms“, and the authors “hope” that the “possibility of artificial theory” be “included in the discussion“.

    In other words – the study authors suggest that more research should be conducted to look at the possibility that these COVID-19 variants were artificially created as part of reverse genetics / Gain-of-Function (GoF) research.
     
    #682     Oct 20, 2023
  3. BKR88

    BKR88

     
    #683     Oct 21, 2023
  4. BKR88

    BKR88

     
    #684     Oct 21, 2023
  5. BKR88

    BKR88

     
    #685     Oct 22, 2023
  6. BKR88

    BKR88

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    #686     Oct 22, 2023
  7. ph1l

    ph1l

    The world has too many people anyway:). But, surprise surprise, his theories don't seem to be accepted by the scientific community.
    So girls (if there are any of you out there), if you want 1,333 or more doses of COVID 19 vaccine at one sitting, get a brand other than Pfizer.:D
     
    #687     Oct 22, 2023
  8. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    And yet the birth rate and number of births has gone up each year during the pandemic years -- noting a large majority of the women giving birth are vaccinated.
    • The current birth rate for U.S. in 2023 is 12.023 births per 1000 people, a 0.09% increase from 2022.
    • The birth rate for U.S. in 2022 was 12.012 births per 1000 people, a 0.09% increase from 2021.
    • The birth rate for U.S. in 2021 was 12.001 births per 1000 people, a 0.09% increase from 2020.
    • The birth rate for U.S. in 2020 was 11.990 births per 1000 people, a 0.09% increase from 2019.
    https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/USA/united-states/birth-rate


    So much for Michael Yeardon and his mass infertility bullshiat and all the other anti-vax nonsense he has shoveled.
     
    #688     Oct 22, 2023
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  9. BKR88

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    #689     Oct 22, 2023
  10. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Everyone one with the least bit of common sense that these claims have been completely refuted as absolute bullshiat. It is amazing that there are people so ignorant out there that they believe this type of misinformation.

    It's further amazing that the Tennessee and Arizona GOP State Houses held hearings where they invited leading anti-vax Covid-deniers to spew misinformation. Keeping in mind that Covid misinformation killed a minimum of 230,000 people in the U.S. -- these hearings are basically promoting the murder of our citizens.
     
    #690     Oct 22, 2023