Sorry, another Covid thread :-)

BKR88 · Nov 14, 2024

ph1l · Nov 14, 2024

BKR88 said:
This prediction might be an exaggeration but I wouldn’t want to be the test subject.

“The U.K. government’s PHE Vaccine Surveillance Report reveals that doubly vaccinated 40-70-year-olds have lost 40% of their immune system capability compared to unvaccinated people.

Their immune systems are deteriorating at around 5% per week (between 2.7% and 8.7%).

If this continues then 30-50-year-olds will have 100% immune system degradation, zero viral defence by Christmas and all doubly vaccinated people over 30 will have lost their immune systems by March next year.”
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https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-066985636251

UK report did not find COVID-19 vaccines damage immune response
AP’S ASSESSMENT: False.
The report did not reach that conclusion. The finding being referenced dealt with people who were infected after being vaccinated — not the reverse — and experts say it showed that vaccine-induced immunity was working properly.

THE FACTS: A video clip of a Yale epidemiologist who spoke at a panel discussion on COVID-19 Monday is spreading on social media, misrepresenting what a report by U.K. health officials found.

Dr. Harvey Risch claimed at the event, hosted by Republican Sen. Ron Johnson of Wisconsin, that the October report showed that COVID-19 vaccines were “damaging the immune response” in people who were previously infected with the coronavirus and later vaccinated.

“Public Health UK has actually published a statement about this in their week 42 weekly report that showed that people who’ve had COVID and then get vaccinated have lower levels of anti-nucleocapsid antibodies,” Risch said. “And since the vaccines don’t address the nucleocapsid antigens — they only address the spike — it means that they’re doing something that’s damaging the immune response in a more general way than just what they do with the spike.”

But Risch had the details about what the report said out of order. The report referred to people who were vaccinated against COVID-19, and subsequently infected. And its statement on such people having lower levels of nucleocapsid antibodies, or “N antibodies,” is not indicative of a problem with the vaccines, the U.K. Health Security Agency and experts said.

instructing cells to produce spike proteins in order to trigger an immune response; they do not generate N antibodies. When someone is vaccinated, and later becomes infected, their immune system works to limit the virus from replicating, Wherry said. Therefore, it’s not surprising that antibodies to other parts of the virus would be lower.

“It actually shows the vaccines are working to limit infection,” Wherry said.

Dr. Taia Wang, a Stanford University assistant professor of medicine and of microbiology and immunology, offered a similar assessment. She said in an email that lower levels of N antibodies “does not indicate that the vaccines are damaging to the immune system,” and that it “simply means that the vaccine worked exactly as it should.”

Shane Crotty, a professor at the La Jolla Institute for Immunology, further said in an email that the “vaccines greatly improve immunity in previously infected individuals.”

“In fact both the immunology and the epidemiology show that those people have the best immunity of anybody,” he said.
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misterkel · Nov 14, 2024

So - the UK gov investigated itself and found it was not lying?
Got it!

misterkel · Nov 15, 2024

BKR88 · Nov 15, 2024

BKR88 said:
Bankruptcy is coming ...... eventually, IMO.
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BKR88 · Nov 15, 2024

Libs will be triggered just because it’s MTG.
Her comments are correct.

gwb-trading · Nov 16, 2024

BKR88 said:
Libs will be triggered just because it’s MTG.
Her comments are correct.

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Fact free nonsense from the biggest nutcase in the U.S. House.

BKR88 · Nov 17, 2024

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