Sorry, another Covid thread :-)

Discussion in 'Chit Chat' started by BKR88, Sep 14, 2021.

  1. BKR88

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  2. wrbtrader

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    I highly recommend you find reliable news sources or at least check the stories prior to posting them here at ET because some of us here are aware of the actual stories.

    75% of those patients were not vaccinated. For the other 25% that were vaccinated...most were living a minimum of 6 months away (their last vaccination shot was > 6 months ago), they had co-morbidities, and were elderly.

    Here's the interesting aspect, those vaccinated patients...not a single one of them had a Covid booster shot...just the minimum of 1 or 2 normal vaccine shots.

    Just as interesting, of that 75% that were not vaccinated...they were not elderly. They were between 18 - 50 years of age.

    The story originated from a story during the peak of the Delta Variant in Michigan and when the hospitals had reached the dangerous 100% capacity level.

    Seriously, some misinformation asswipe out there took a story about a Sparrow Hospital in Lansing, Michigan that had a high hospitalization / ICU admission of not vaccinated individuals and then did some editing for the sole purpose to trick fellow Covidiots out there on social media.

    You fell for it line and sinker.

    #stopmisinformation

    P.S. My sister worked for awhile as a Covid Pandemic Travel Nurse at a nearby Michigan hospital to the Sparrow Hospital prior to returning back to Illinois. They had the same problem with 82% of the patients were not vaccinated at the peak of the Delta Variant wave.

    Just as important, the not vaccinated patients had 2 - 3x longer hospitalization stay duration in comparison to the vaccinated patients.

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    #132     Jun 22, 2022
  3. BKR88

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    #133     Jun 22, 2022
  4. wrbtrader

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    I think Dr. Milton Wolf has his head in the sand or up somewhere else.

    Keep in mind, the CDC and FDA use studies from other countries too...Canada, Europe and such.

    Thus, there have been many studies involving Covid vaccines on children but the one I know about that recently occurred late last year...

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    For kids ages 5 through 11, the FDA reviewed a vaccine study of more than 4,600 children in this age range. Of this group, about 3,100 were given the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine. The other children were given an inactive (placebo) shot. Children who were given the vaccine were monitored for side effects for at least 2 months after the second dose. Side effects were generally mild to moderate.

    The FDA also took an early look at cases of COVID-19 that occurred one week after children were given a second dose of the vaccine. None of the children in this analysis had been previously diagnosed with COVID-19. Among 1,305 children given the vaccine, there were 3 cases of COVID-19. Among 663 children given the placebo, there were 16 cases of COVID-19. The results suggest that the vaccine is about 91% effective in preventing COVID-19 in this age group.

    For kids ages 12 through 15, the FDA reviewed a vaccine study of more than 2,200 U.S. children in this age range. Of this group, about half were given the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine. The other children were given a placebo shot.

    A week after the second dose was given, there were no cases of COVID-19 in the 1,005 children given the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine. Among 978 children given the placebo, there were 16 cases of COVID-19. None of the children had previously been diagnosed with COVID-19. The results suggest that the vaccine is 100% effective at preventing COVID-19 in this age group.

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    Something else to keep in mind, there have been congressional hearings here in the United States that allowed Parents to complain to politicians about some Covid vaccination study that they allowed their child to participate that showed overall a decrease in mortality and hospitalization but their child was one of the unlucky ones that had a severe reaction to the vaccine.

    Paul Rand himself sits on that committee.

    Thus, Dr. Milton Wolf must not be aware of that too. :D

    #stopmisinformation

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    #134     Jun 24, 2022
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  6. BKR88

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  7. wrbtrader

    wrbtrader

    Does VAERS list deaths caused by COVID-19 vaccines?

    https://www.nebraskamed.com/COVID/does-vaers-list-deaths-caused-by-covid-19-vaccines


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    ...The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) requires health care providers to report any serious adverse event (including death) that happens after a COVID-19 vaccination – whether or not the provider thinks there is any link. The CDC says, "Health care providers are required to report to VAERS the following adverse events after COVID-19 vaccination…regardless if the reporter thinks the vaccine caused the AE." AE stands for adverse event and includes death.
    • That means that if a vaccinated person drowns, gets in a car crash or is struck by lightning, their death must be reported to VAERS as an adverse event. Since we've vaccinated over 223 million people in the United States, many deaths will occur coincidentally after vaccination.
    As of Nov. 2, people have reported to VAERS 14,506 deaths that occurred sometime after COVID-19 vaccination. Doctors at the CDC review each reported death, looking at death certificates, autopsy and medical records. Additional CDC vaccine safety monitoring systems such as the National Healthcare Safety Network, Vaccine Safety Datalink, Clinical Immununization Safety Assessment Project and FDA's vaccine safety reporting systems are then used to provide more rigorous scientific investigation of potential adverse events.

    The true number of deaths currently attributed to COVID-19 vaccines in detailed scientific investigation is quite small...

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    #stopmisinformation

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    #137     Jun 25, 2022
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  9. wrbtrader

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    Actually, I get my information from other health sites that have been critical of the government in the past and they then have links directly to the government sites.
    • One such website is the link nebraskamed.com, studies that have been peer-reviewed and +100 reliable medical sources.
    Also, I stay away from Twitter and Facebook experts with an agenda. In addition, I studied two particular fields in college...I tend to know bullshit when I see it involving vaccinations regardless if it's a Covid vaccine or any other vaccine such as the VAERS report that's very common for Covidiots to use as a foundation for their misinformation campaign.

    Keep in mind this, I have contacts in France, Canada and the United States...their data lines up with each other although Canada's vaccine statists is under more scrutiny and outperforms the three countries.

    Simply, they each have their own health agency and they have no connection to another country although they share their studies with each other. I trust that information than the vomit coming from a Covidiot that doesn't understand VAERS. :sneaky:

    By the way, I got no problems with someone expressing their opinions about the government, vaccinations as long as they're clear its just their opinion. Yet, if they say something as if its "facts"...they need to post the data with what they're saying to verify those facts...

    Without the statistical data its just another opinionated idiot. That's why I had an issue with Dr. Wolf that gave his opinion that vaccines for children had occurred without any studies. Simply, he stated it as if it was a fact when such was not only misinformation/disinformation that anyone with a computer and knows how to research Children Vaccine Studies/Trials...

    It was a outright lie
    because there has been many studies/trials of Covid vaccines for children and congressional hearings about some of the trials because a few children had an adverse reaction...they went in front of the congressional hearings (the government) to be heard about their warnings from the parents of those children.

    Simply, don't be naive and think there are people in the government that are all in it together about vaccines. There are some on those committees that outright dislike vaccines and are very public about it (e.g. Paul Rand).

    #stopmisinformation

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  10. BKR88

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