Soros says the EU's problem is not greece or spain

Discussion in 'Economics' started by loza, Jun 23, 2010.

  1. Same thing would need to happen without the currency, but the thing is without a common ccy you can foster the "money illusion" among the folks on the deflation side, which makes the pill a little less bitter to swallow, and of course the presumably deteriorating ccy would make it easier to export more and import less. With the common ccy, the politics becomes much harder without the money illusion, and so too does the economics, since your exporters aren't getting any automatic advantage from the decline in the ccy.
    A common currency is some kind of obsession with mainstream economists. I don't know why. Why would they think a currency market is an obstacle while a commodity market isn't? I've never been able to figure that out.
     
    #11     Jun 23, 2010
  2. Art, may I quote you in my new book?
     
    #12     Jun 23, 2010
  3. "Chermany" eh?
    I guess the "CH" comes from Chernobyl?
     
    #13     Jun 23, 2010
  4. 4EXJOE

    4EXJOE

    CH as in China.

    China: US
    Germany: Club Med

    Manufacturing nations that require some form of currency manipulation (peg to dollar, common currency with nations of inferior economic status) to promote mercantilism by funding deficits to buy goods.
     
    #14     Jun 23, 2010
  5. You may. But please don't use my real name.
     
    #15     Jun 23, 2010
  6. And how do you go from rabid free marketeer and flaming theist to impartial commentator, and defender of truth and reason?

    As for Soros talking his book, could you provide such an example in a way that presents him as disingenuous? Just curious.
     
    #16     Jun 23, 2010
  7. ....i read one of soros' first books and didnt understand what the hell he was talking about. years later i heard that he said he didnt know what the hell he was thinking when he wrote that book....

     
    #17     Jun 23, 2010
  8. I checked out 3-4 Soros' books from lib because I wanted to gauge this big money guy. I was so disappointed after skimming through a few pages. I recall he was talking gibberishly about "reflectivity".
    It is right he does not know what he is talking about. He is not a philosopher as he pretends to be in his book. Big money breeds big ego.:D
     
    #18     Jun 23, 2010
  9. jasonc

    jasonc

    I have read alchemy of finance and also his newest book about the change in our financial system. The reflexivity thing seemed tough to understand but overall i found both books excellent for illustrating ways to think about capital flows and how to approach the market. Saying this so someone reading the thread does not think it is all negative.

    And instead of debating his sinceritiy do people disagree with him? He seems correct that Germany is the problem with the curent situation. I say they are the problem but still do not think they should change policy.
     
    #19     Jun 23, 2010
  10. You realize, of course, that's not what jem meant by "talking his book." Good one.

    But, yes, I also read a few of his books and a couple about him. He is indeed one complex carbohydrate. His theory of reflexivity is interesting and serves to explain how exploitable bubbles and near-bubbles may form. I think the people who regard him as disingenuous and "talking his book" in a deceptive way perhaps don't realize that he may well be acting upon the very principle that he has described in his books. Earlier this year, when he said gold represented the "ultimate asset bubble," this may have been misconstrued by some as an asset he planned to avoid. But such a conclusion is not at all in keeping with what his concept of "reflexivity" is about.
     
    #20     Jun 23, 2010