Son of If You Can Draw a Straight Line . . .

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  1. dbphoenix

    dbphoenix

    I don't understand the question. What "time of day"? What "all time high"? "Far away" from what?
     
    #951     Oct 25, 2013
  2. niko

    niko

    1. At the time of the post.

    2. Did not go back far enough (before 2000)

    3. Am I far away in my understanding of the important level premarket? My reading was that 77 was the level to watch.
     
    #952     Oct 25, 2013
  3. dbphoenix

    dbphoenix

    You seem to be getting into some sort of forwardtesting here. Rather than ask me whether you're right or wrong, I suggest you do some replays, peg what you think are the important levels, then see how they play out during the following session. What the market says is far more important than what I think.
     
    #953     Oct 25, 2013
  4. niko

    niko

    I am trying to come up with a level to focus on, in the past I ended up with so many, that you kindly pointed out that I had to cut on the lines.

    Yesterday, I was focusing on the wrong things, and ended up with 41, but the level to be focused on was 50.

    I am just trying to avoid wandering far away from the right path here. Or else I will end up backtesting the wrong hypothesis.

    I am posting the levels I come up with in order to get an opinion, perhaps I am missing something important, then I can use that knowledge to add to the plan I want to backtest.
     
    #954     Oct 25, 2013
  5. dbphoenix

    dbphoenix

    Last night there was a "trading range" between 74 and 78. Price fell out of it at midnight, recovered at 70, sat in the old TR for an hour, rallied to 83, then tested the middle of that range twice, at 0830 and 0930. So what was important to any upcoming trading decisions?
     
    #955     Oct 25, 2013
  6. slugar

    slugar

    that it couldn't go lower than the mid point of the range
     
    #956     Oct 25, 2013
  7. niko

    niko

    It acted as S before the open, and there was traders interest around that level (being the middle of the trading range from overnight)

    After the open, instead of looking for long or shorts everywhere one should focus on what price does if it gets to that level, as occurred at 9:38.

    In this case sellers gave up at 76 and after the break of the SL, it was so far THE entry for those looking for a long.
     
    #957     Oct 25, 2013
  8. llIHeroic

    llIHeroic

    Very interesting discussion of the overnight price action. I am learning a lot. I had the support at 76 coming from the Demand line which started with the huge surge at yesterday's close, connected to point that buyers were able halt the slow advance of the overnight selling pressure and start moving things back in the opposite direction, around 69.

    My model still worked, but my understanding of the entire context and the additional factors providing support around 76 was clearly incomplete. Still, it felt like such a textbook day for your typical Price Action; can't get any more basic than this. Seems so easy sometimes...
     
    #958     Oct 25, 2013
  9. niko

    niko

    Ok, I ended up today, defining what is it that I am going to backtest.

    The only thing I am adding to the plan written last week in my journal is:

    Avoid the chop. Will use the 2 losers in a row indication.

    If a level is identified as important premarket, a break of the line will be given extra weight just in case the 50% level is far away, will have to see how this pans out.

    What I posted last week was:

    http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=277881&perpage=6&pagenumber=25

    I have to point out that I am not coming here with something new, but just what has been so far my understanding of what is written in this thread.

    Will start back testing this, next week.

    Tried to execute this today and came up with this:

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    #959     Oct 25, 2013
  10. niko

    niko

    The only comment is that trend lines do not provide Support or Resistance.

    In this case where all the trades around this level (the TR overnight) that provided such support.
     
    #960     Oct 25, 2013
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