Son of If You Can Draw a Straight Line . . .

Discussion in 'Journals' started by dbphoenix, Sep 19, 2013.

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  1. yossy

    yossy

    So are we saying that it is the 1st line/correct context which starts/determines it all? And even an almost 100% ret of the upmove is therefore not seen as a new downmove but a ret in an uptrend.
     
    #631     Oct 17, 2013
  2. dbphoenix

    dbphoenix

    Since I won't be answering any given question more than once, I suggest that those who don't want to be ignored or left behind read everything. This provides those who are interested with the opportunity to move ahead, rather than rock back and forth and back and forth trying to pull out of a rut on a muddy track.
     
    #632     Oct 17, 2013
  3. niko

    niko

    I know I can sometimes sound like the most idiot wannabe trader in the world, but I just can´t move forward with confidence until I understand why is it that this is the ONLY line that matters.

    Before I finally followed the great advice of cutting off the lines, I used to trace 20 lines or more on my 60 min charts, but at the end I never understood why they were important, and I guess that is why I never managed to understand Support and Resistance.

    Now, I understand that this is the midpoint of this Trading Range, and it is where the most deals have happened during the last few hours, and there will be interest from other traders about things happening around this level. But I would have focused on the extremes of the TR not on the MP, and if including S/R in the decision making process I guess I would have avoided trading around this level and waited for something happening around the extremes.

    I also understand that at this moment, we are not using S/R, just lines and RETs, therefore the reply I gave before.
     
    #633     Oct 17, 2013
  4. dbphoenix

    dbphoenix

    It's not about upmoves and downmoves and retracements and arithmetic. It's about the state of demand and supply. See Heroic's first post from yesterday. If one doesn't understand where buyers and sellers are in relation to each other then the rest of it is just auto-fellatio, only not as enjoyable.
     
    #634     Oct 17, 2013
  5. niko

    niko

    Sure, I had not been able to reply before and did not want my reply to be biased by what other members saw. I will try to reply faster in order to avoid this.
     
    #635     Oct 17, 2013
  6. dbphoenix

    dbphoenix

    Incorporating others' views into one's own process is what forums are for. If one has no guide and is turned this way and that by every new opinion, he isn't likely to get very far. But that's what testing is all about, if done correctly.
     
    #636     Oct 17, 2013
  7. slugar

    slugar

    Working on this problem right now ! Thanks, DB
     
    #637     Oct 17, 2013
  8. fortydraws

    fortydraws

    Here is what my first trade of the day looked like. Many days the NQ just about gives away 5 - 10 points within the first 5 - 30 minutes if you learn what to look for.
     
    #638     Oct 17, 2013
  9. Gringo

    Gringo

    The price behaviour at the open today is not too dissimilar from the price behaviour we have been discussing in this thread also from the open from last friday. The basic mechanism of supply and demand thankfully hasn't changed over the course of the centuries, otherwise we would also be searching for a new edge every few months.

    Gringo
     
    #639     Oct 17, 2013
  10. niko

    niko

    I have to work on this.

    I think I got it

    Go long at the RET, but that has already been addressed
     
    #640     Oct 17, 2013
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