Something very simplistic

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  1. nkhoi

    nkhoi

    rule of thumb, as the thread get longer the discussion get weirder :)
     
    #651     Oct 1, 2002
  2. A very fascinating thread. Especially for a very undisciplined trader like myself. My question, could this be adapted to stocks or to an index based stock like DIA or QQQ? If so, any ideas? I would think that you would probably trade fewer times since stocks tend to move somewhat slower. Also, I would think that only very liquid NYSE stocks would qualify since you probably would have to use market orders. If I am way off base, I apologize and will crawl back into my hole, since this is my FIRST post
     
    #652     Oct 1, 2002
  3. Stocks would not work with his system. Mainly because of the uptick rule when trying to short. I think it would ruin the edge. Also fills will be crappy and they wont be as definitive as trading the ES/NQ.

    If you only scalp.. the NQ/ES is the only place where I think a purely scalping mechanical system actually has a chance to make real $.


    --MIKE
     
    #653     Oct 1, 2002
  4. No 13:23 problems I trust!

    :)
     
    #654     Oct 1, 2002
  5. Quah

    Quah

    Choppy again today towards the open. Basically, totally flat minus commish.

    For ES:

    +1 points 16 trades, 9 winners, 7 losers

    For NQ:

    +0 Points 14 trades, 7 winners, 7 losers


    home.carolina.rr.com/quah/quah1web.htm
     
    #655     Oct 1, 2002
  6. sherif24

    sherif24

    Re: something very simple - for stocks?


    I've been thinking about this too. The introduction of the SSFs should take care of the uptick problem. We'll see what kind of liquidity we get.
     
    #656     Oct 1, 2002
  7. zorak

    zorak

    Started off doing the NQs. Turns out they moved just as slowly
    in the morning as the afternoon...the 9:33 didn't conclude
    until just before the 9:51. (I had decided earlier that if
    a trade was on while another came up, to ignore it and just
    see the first one to conclusion).

    Only one entry error today, mis-setting a stop on the 1:23. That
    one was a close call, flipped a coin and went short. D'oh!@#

    Margin is too low to start with anything but the NQ's again
    tomorrow. I'm starting to regret just trading 1 of the 2
    initially.

    zorak
     
    #657     Oct 1, 2002
  8. Quah

    Quah

    I forgot to mention that the NQ trades were so slow this morning that I ended up not reversing the first two that overlapped with the third, which I didn't take at all.
     
    #658     Oct 1, 2002
  9. Thanks for the response. Perhaps condensing the daily trades into one between 9:35 and 9:51, a second in the ten o'clock hour, a third at noon and a fourth at 1:20 pm. Maybe this may make it feasible for stocks? or am I crazy? I accept either alternative with a :)
     
    #659     Oct 1, 2002
  10. Quah

    Quah

    I don't know that this could work for stocks at all - certainly not as it is now. Might be intersting on the SSF's though.
     
    #660     Oct 1, 2002
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