Some cool images of Iraqi losers

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by 426653478, May 13, 2009.

  1. You're a fucking loser, asswipe.

    Ask someone who has a family member in the military in Afghanistan is you're as cute as you think, and they'll tell you when their relative gets back, they'd like to kick your ass for stirring up the shit and the hostilities that could get them killed or maimed.
     
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    Obama orders stop to detainee photo releases
    Story Highlights
    NEW: Administration official says prison photos will not be released

    Photos show detainees in Iraq and Afghanistan between 2001 and 2006

    The release is response to lawsuit filed by ACLU

    Pentagon says photos don't represent a systemic problem

    From Ed Hornick
    CNN

    (CNN) -- President Obama has ordered government lawyers to object to the planned release of additional detainee photos, the White House said Wednesday.

    The Defense Department was set to release hundreds of photographs showing alleged abuse of prisoners in detention facilities in Afghanistan and Iraq.

    "The president was concerned about harm to the troops," White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs said Wednesday afternoon. "The president, as you all know, met with his legal team last week because he did not feel comfortable with the release of the photos."

    Gibbs added, "the president reflected on this case and believes that they have the potential to pose harm to the troops. ... Nothing is added by the release of the photos."

    The release was ordered in response to a Freedom of Information Act request filed by the American Civil Liberties Union. It followed Obama's decision to release Bush-era CIA documents showing that the United States used techniques like waterboarding, considered torture by the current administration.

    But the announcement Wednesday is a reversal of what Gibbs said April 24, when he argued that the White House had no problem releasing the photos, based on the court decisions handed down.

    "There was a lot of back and forth in his mind over the course of several weeks about ensuring that this protected those that keep us safe, that it protected our national security," Gibbs said then. "The president came to the determination that the decision that he made was consistent with all of those criteria."

    The reversal of Obama's decision, Gibbs said, came because the president didn't believe that the government made the strongest case possible to the court and asked the legal team to make the case.

    Gibbs added that the president wasn't pressured by the military to hold back on releasing the photos.

    Photographs released in 2006 of detainees being abused and humiliated at the Abu Ghraib military prison in Iraq sparked widespread outrage and led to convictions for several prison guards and the ouster of the prison's commander.

    The Pentagon shut down the prison in the wake of the scandal, but it reopened under Iraqi control this year.

    The ACLU said the Pentagon had agreed to release a "substantial" number of photographs by May 28. Officials at the Pentagon have said the photographs are from more than 60 criminal investigations between 2001 and 2006 and show military personnel allegedly abusing detainees.

    "The disclosure of these photographs serves as a further reminder that abuse of prisoners in U.S.-administered detention centers was systemic," said Jameel Jaffer, director of the ACLU National Security Project. "Some of the abuse occurred because senior civilian and military officials created a culture of impunity in which abuse was tolerated, and some of the abuse was expressly authorized. It's imperative that senior officials who condoned or authorized abuse now be held accountable for their actions."

    ACLU attorney Amrit Singh has said the photographs "provide visual proof that prisoner abuse by U.S. personnel was not aberrational but widespread, reaching far beyond the walls of Abu Ghraib."

    But Pentagon officials reject ACLU allegations that the photos show a systemic pattern of abuse by the military.

    Pentagon spokesman Bryan Whitman said the Defense Department has "always been serious about investigating credible allegations of abuse."

    "The policy of the Department of Defense is to treat all prisoners humanely, and those who have violated that policy have been investigated and disciplined," he added.

    More than 400 people, Whitman said, have been disciplined based on investigations involving detainee abuse. The discipline ranged from prison sentences to demotions and letters of reprimand.

    The Pentagon wanted to prevent the images from being put into the public domain but decided to release them after losing two court cases, according to Whitman.

    "We felt this case had pretty much run its course," he said. "Legal options at this point had become pretty limited."

    Last month, Defense Secretary Robert Gates expressed concerns about the photo release, saying that terrorist groups like al Qaeda could exploit the photos to recruit terrorists or incite violence.

    It's a sentiment echoed by two veteran U.S. senators. In a March 7 letter to the Obama administration, Sens. Lindsey Graham, R-South Carolina, and Joe Lieberman, I-Connecticut, expressed concern over the new photographs.

    "We know that many terrorists captured in Iraq have told American interrogators that one of the reasons they decided to join the violent jihadist war against America was what they saw on Al-Qaeda videos of abuse of detainees at Abu Ghraib," the senators wrote. "Releasing these old photographs of detainee treatment now will provide new fodder to Al-Qaeda's propaganda and recruitment operations, undercut the progress you have made in our international relations, and endanger America's military and diplomatic personnel throughout the world."

    Andrew McCarthy, writing on the Web site of the National Review, issued a harsh warning Tuesday: "American soldiers, American civilians, and other innocent people are going to die because Pres. Barack Obama wants to release photographs of prisoner abuse."

    "The photos at issue won't tell us anything significant about prisoner abuse, and they may very well serve to distort reality. What seems certain is that they will get Americans killed," he added. iReport.com: Should photos be released?

    David Rehbein, the national commander of the American Legion, wrote in the Wall Street Journal last week that nothing good can come from the release of the photographs.

    "Other than self-flagellation by certain Americans, riots and future terrorist acts, what else do people expect will come from the release of these photographs?" he asked.

    But groups such as Human Rights First have argued that releasing photographs of alleged abuse is vital.

    The group, in a release on its Web site, says it has set up a nonpartisan inquiry to "evaluate the full cost of abuses, look at how we got there, and come up with safeguards so we don't repeat the same mistakes."

    "The U.S. needs to invest in a forward-looking strategy on intelligence gathering that gives interrogators training and guidance on which techniques work, and which techniques -- such as torture -- don't."

    CNN's Jill Dougherty, Ed Henry and Mike Mount contributed to this report.

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  3. auspiv

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    cool images? iraqi losers?

    never before have i felt so much hate towards an anonymous user of the internet.

    i hope one day you're the subject of "cool images of loser losers", and that one day you'll be covered in shit, beaten and bruised, and then made fun of all by some hostile force that creates it's own rules.
     
  4. oh ya you're right why don't we bring back the same shit to our own country, since they've already practiced it on the cheaper race, their mentality is set and ready to carry it on their own people
     
  5. I assume you expressing your hatred feels good, soon you will see people covering each other in shit all over the world, after all this is the new century we had to invent new ways of bringing suffering upon mankind
     
  6. That's irrelevant. All the top military commandeers are fighting the decision to release these photos, a move made possible by an ACLU lawsuit, because they've all stated there's no question it will bring retribution attacks against U.S. personnel, and serve as a fantastic Al Qaeda recruiting tool, but you, in your infinite wisdom, not only help disseminate the photos, but add a stupid ass thread title while you're at it.

    Do you think these Generals are just talking to hear their own words, or concerned for nothing?

    Cut your losses, realize you've made a mistake, and move on.

    Everyone makes mistakes. The smart people realize it and make it right.
     
  7. no not only it's not irrelevant, but it's totally relevant

    one of the first popular crappy phrases I learned from americans was; "too bad, you should have thought about that in the first place"
     
  8. You don't think some of those were tossing grenades and explosives under humvees do you?
     
  9. killing does not open the doors of hell [upon this planet], but torture does

    you might not believe in hell, but you don't have to in order to burn in one
     
    #10     May 13, 2009