Software Engineer: $7,000 a year in China, $8,400 in India... $90,000 in U.S.

Discussion in 'Economics' started by kmiklas, Apr 13, 2017.

  1. Actually, no one has said otherwise. They're saying "you get what you pay for", generally. Can you find outliers? Sure. Would you build a business on outliers? Probably not.
     
    #91     Apr 17, 2017
  2. #93     Apr 17, 2017
  3. Zzzz1

    Zzzz1

    oh fuxx, please...on ignore...not for writing like a 6th grader learning English in Bangladesh but for putting up such weak arguments that they are outright insulting to an average intelligent person. What an idiot.

    If you discuss about the quality of foreign programming:
    I worked in the past for a European company that ordered a programming project at a famous Delaware company. After about two years the project was still a disaster. An audit from a specialized Swiss company lead to a claim against this Delaware company. The Delaware company accepted to pay +10 million $ in damages and the project was stopped and given to another software company in a much cheaper country. They did the job as expected.

    I also know Ninjatrader/Tradestation programmers from "cheap countries" that are much better than those from "expensive countries".

    Those who sell expensive always use the same tactics: accuse the opponent for delivering inferior or even bad quality. They want to frighten the client.

    I know also from IT jobs from a subsidiary from Johnson&Johnson that were transferred to cheap locations. This proofs that the argument "these cheaper countries deliver horrible quality" is not correct.

     
    #94     Apr 17, 2017
  4. Zzzz1

    Zzzz1

    Not that it matters to this thread topic...but...

    Hacker Rank -> Japan 6th? Germany 14th? With all due respect but this is a total joke. Japanese devs are good at Java Script, iOs, and Ruby. That is it. They cannot even maintain functioning corporate websites. Which hacking competition has a Japanese hacker ever won? That while German hackers have been on the front pages each and every year for 25 years straight. Has a German team not for the first time broken out of a virtual machine into the host system recently? Just saying, this list is bullshxx, though I believe Russia deserves spot 1 for sure, not China. China should be way lower , so should be Singapore, Taiwan, France, Italy. Romania should be way higher.

     
    #95     Apr 17, 2017
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  5. One of them worked in quant finance and did well for himself.You would not want him at that firm you've been consulting LOL.

    I am happy Hungary is high on the list.
     
    #96     Apr 17, 2017
  6. I'm not sure what you mean by that because I love having people smarter than me around. Based on my experience working with Russians though: if they think you are not as smart as them, you don't exist, so I assume that's what you meant.

    And yeah, Russians should do well in quant finance: mathematically minded, great at programming. Not so great at interpersonal relationships though ;-)
     
    #97     Apr 17, 2017
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  7. Sig

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    #98     Apr 17, 2017
  8. Mtrader

    Mtrader

    Well, you can pay over 100K for "quality" and still get a job that in reality was done by cheap Chinese programmers. And nobody ever noticed the difference in quality. Apparently this scam happened in several American companies at the same time. But nobody noticed any problem.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...puter-programmer-outsourced-job-to-China.html
     
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    #99     Apr 17, 2017
  9. Sig

    Sig

    I'd say this shows that Verizon has poor management with limited technical expertise, something any of us who have dealt with them would probably agree on.
     
    #100     Apr 17, 2017
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