SoftBank is the manipulator

Discussion in 'Wall St. News' started by destriero, Sep 4, 2020.

  1. destriero

    destriero


    he's there as much as anybody.
     
    #41     Sep 6, 2020
  2. Tavurth

    Tavurth

    @destriero seems to have ignored me lol, well let's see how the markets fare over the next few days
     
    #42     Sep 6, 2020
  3. Nobert

    Nobert

    @horizon

    ,, SoftBank is sitting on trading gains of around $ 4 billion after founder Masayoshi Son made aggressive bets
    ...
    SoftBank’s bets were made on the instruction of Mr. Son, who lost $ 70 billion in the dotcom crash."


    Thus, inflation adjusted, Mr. Son will be breaking even, by 2077.
     
    #43     Sep 6, 2020
  4. Overnight

    Overnight

    Lies! (At least in the option space, from what I have seen here.)
     
    #44     Sep 6, 2020
  5. vanzandt

    vanzandt

    He lost a bunch of money on WeWork and Uber. He's no Warren Buffet that's for sure.
    That said, he's no dummy either. Obviously he hired the right people.
     
    #45     Sep 6, 2020
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  6. tsznecki

    tsznecki

    1st, I wasn't addressing you.

    2nd, not only do you misunderstand my point, you spout some garbage about Softbank covering sold options. Softbank was/is long the OTM calls not short. Keep up.
     
    #46     Sep 6, 2020
  7. heispark

    heispark

    Son is a spoiled son....... :cool:
     
    #47     Sep 6, 2020
  8. Tavurth

    Tavurth

    No need to be mean!

    "SoftBank bought a roughly equal amount of call options tied to the underlying shares it bought, as well as on other names, according to people familiar with the matter. It also sold call options at far higher prices."

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/softbanks-bet-on-tech-giants-fueled-powerful-market-rally-11599232205
     
    #48     Sep 6, 2020
  9. Banjo

    Banjo

  10. Matt_ORATS

    Matt_ORATS Sponsor

    Below are the slope measurements of the weighted average component stocks of the Nasdaq100. ORATS slope is a measurement of the put/call tangent line, the higher the higher put IV relative to call higher strikes. It has been falling since early July and especially since 8/21/20.

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    For some historical context in the bottom picture, the slope has only been this low in the NDX_C components two other times since 2007, once before the GFC, and 1/28/20.

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    Here's the IV at the constant maturity, constant delta 30 day 25 delta divided by 75 delta showing a similar story.

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    We also have 5 delta and 95 delta constant maturities 10, 20, 30, 60 90 180 365 day.
     
    #50     Sep 7, 2020