Socialism nearly killed the Pilgrims...but it produces great places to live

Discussion in 'Economics' started by Covertibility, Nov 29, 2011.

  1. well, I'm not sure that is entirely the situation, due to the fact that the city boundaries do not expand, and residents tend to be replaced with business when the people move out, but not far away, maybe just to the suburbs.

    But you are correct, it is pointless to compare a homogenous city with a culturally diverse city. Chicago is the most ethnically diverse city in all the world, even more than NYC.

    I suppose some like living in a city where everyone looks like their mother and father, but I don't.

    By the way, How's that drug war going in Vancouver?
     
    #21     Nov 29, 2011
  2. DT-waw

    DT-waw


    Of course! Also weather, short distance to the sea, quality of chicks, cultural diversity. My list rocks in all respects :D


    Compare that to Frankfurt, Geneva or Vienna bitches...
     
    #22     Nov 29, 2011
  3. jj90

    jj90

    Actually Mav, you might want to check up on this one. Times have changed.
     
    #23     Nov 29, 2011
  4. jj90

    jj90

    For your reference, it's been 'over' for at least a year now.
     
    #24     Nov 29, 2011
  5. Maverick74

    Maverick74

    Vancouver was the one exception on that list. But it's mostly asians. Same difference.
     
    #25     Nov 29, 2011
  6. sorry, I never knew they had one, but then I was comparing it to trying to buy seeds in USA.
     
    #26     Nov 29, 2011
  7. Hong-KOUVER?
     
    #27     Nov 29, 2011
  8. bone

    bone

    That list of 'great places' is dominated by money. Hoarded gold from exterminated Jews, vice proceeds, old inherited VAT-free wealth, blood diamonds, you name it.

    Unfuckingbelievably naive post.
     
    #28     Nov 29, 2011
  9. Bone, what the hell? Usually you talk sense. What is this xenophobia against the Austrian/Swiss/Germanic peoples?

    Hoarded gold from exterminated Jews? In twenty years there will be nobody alive on the European continent (or anywhere else in the world) who had anything to do with either exterminating Jews or stealing their possessions. By what right do you hold a nation collectively responsible for the deeds of their ancestors?

    Is it time to get annoyed with you Yanks for waging biological warfare against the Native Americans and committing other atrocities in the ethnic cleansing of those peoples? Or for waging nuclear warfare against the Japanese? What about your enslavement of the peoples of the African continent? Holding contemporary Germans responsible for the Holocaust is morally equivalent to condemning all Jews as Christ Killers, or all caucasian Americans as slave traders.

    Vice proceeds? This comes from an American whose government has created profitable and ruthlessly violent cartels through its illogical drug and foreign policies? To which nation does "big tobacco" belong? And in which country may one find the "Oasis in the Desert" paid for by gamblers? People trafficking? Where else can a billionaire pedophile obtain some imported early teen girls for his private amusement? Only in America of course, where the corrupt political system allows him to serve his sentence under house arrest.

    Old inherited VAT free wealth? Are we socialist? Do we not believe in private property, here on a site for traders? Or perhaps since you have the lucky accident of being born in the New World you have the right to condemn the owners of fortunes which existed before you. If you, like Buffet, are opposed to inherited wealth I'm quite sure you will set an example by leaving the residue of your estate to the Government with nothing for your progeny. And that you also will not give any financial support to your adult children as you do not believe in unmerited intergenerational transfers of wealth.

    Blood diamonds? Well, we did what we could for the nig nogs - but they insisted on hacking each other to death anyway. Build them a school, the adjacent tribe comes and burns it down. They prefer to be hacking each other with machetes and quarrelling over their natural resources. Then when they expel our farmers they have the temerity to ask for aid for their starving populations which they cannot feed as they do not know how to work our modern farm equipment. So what is a few blood diamonds? Any worse than waging wars of aggression in order to secure mineral, oil, and natural gas access? Which nation is most culpable for this?

    Honestly what a thoughtless and hostile commentary. I expected better than this from you.

    Then again perhaps it is not the deeds of the wealthy Europeans or their ancestors which so irritates you, but their wealth in itself. While you have no doubt done reasonably okay for yourself in your business/career and have made a little money, you have not struck it truly rich. Therefore you still undertake consulting work for a rate, which would not interest you if you had devised and implemented a methodology for creating your own fortune from the markets.

    Yes, you have a good knowledge base and some edges, but the fact is that there is much that you do not know, hence your outlook and resentment against achievement. I note that you exist in a world where it is unknown to be able to create huge returns in directional trading. The institutions and individuals you know do not trade directionally. So we know your place in the ecosystem. Someone who knows a bit and gets along but not able to accumulate the vast fortune which would enable you to mix as an equal amongst the old money Europeans whom you despise.
     
    #29     Nov 29, 2011
  10. Social democracies hah?
    Progressive Liberals have unique talent in coming up with new and every time different name for old socialistic ideas. Every time after the new (old ) idea of wealth transfer stop working the old name changes as well.
    I consider myself a Phd in the subject after spending 15 years learning in former USSR schools. Unfortunately for US the only cure against the Socialism is more of it. That is why I expect longer pain and suffering. In the final stage there is no envy, no regrets and majority is equal, indifferent and completely poor.

    The problem is that it is relatively easy to make an impression that Socialism is doing fine. In USSR all products were forwarded to major cities like Moskow while small places were extremely poor. Some countries use oil as a payment for welfare programs and therefore Socialism is great! Some use protectionism that works for small countries since they make no difference to China... .

    It takes a life time to see and understand that the idea of socialism sounds great but do not work in practice. The young generation never learn from mistakes of the parents. The cycle repeats itself.

    G'd bless America... .
     
    #30     Nov 29, 2011