Socialism leads to Atheism?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by nitro, May 24, 2011.

  1. You first.
     
    #31     May 25, 2011
  2. nitro

    nitro

    I try!
     
    #32     May 25, 2011
  3. stu

    stu

    You guys should really stop telling other people what they do and do not do.
     
    #33     May 25, 2011
  4. jem

    jem

    Did you all see what Netanyahu said last night.

    he pretty much restated what I wrote about america and individual rights.

    ... and then added the foundation of the idea of individual rights and democracy came from the the contribution of the old testament and the Jewish people to the world.

    He stated that that prior to the Jewish people we had a nations of slaves and slave culture and that Jewish religion and the bible established God given individual rights.
     
    #34     May 25, 2011
  5. Ricter

    Ricter

    Excellent points. It's a pity their old prohibitions/controls on usury were not retained.
     
    #35     May 25, 2011
  6. Ricter

    Ricter

    I'll concede that the suicidal may be considered as no longer having an immortality project.
     
    #36     May 25, 2011
  7. holy crap. have you ever read the bible? the ot is full of slavery and justifying taking slaves.
     
    #37     May 25, 2011
  8. jem

    jem

    talk about holy crap... no thinker...

    so why don't your rewrite history and explain how rousseau and locke and jefferson - were in favor of big govt, and collective rights...

    And that the social contract was really about the people serving govt not the govt serving the people by their consent.

    finally why don't you reread the bible.

    Perhaps you can explain that God did not make a covenant with abraham and that he did not establish god given law with moses and that he did not free Isreal from slavery and bondage... and that the 10 commandments does not from the basis for western law.


    Are you that much of atheist you are willing to rewrite history?
     
    #38     May 25, 2011
  9. ok i will:
    Slavery in the Bible



    Except for murder, slavery has got to be one of the most immoral things a person can do. Yet slavery is rampant throughout the Bible in both the Old and New Testaments. The Bible clearly approves of slavery in many passages, and it goes so far as to tell how to obtain slaves, how hard you can beat them, and when you can have sex with the female slaves.



    Many Jews and Christians will try to ignore the moral problems of slavery by saying that these slaves were actually servants or indentured servants. Many translations of the Bible use the word "servant", "bondservant", or "manservant" instead of "slave" to make the Bible seem less immoral than it really is. While many slaves may have worked as household servants, that doesn't mean that they were not slaves who were bought, sold, and treated worse than livestock.



    The following passage shows that slaves are clearly property to be bought and sold like livestock.



    However, you may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you. You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land. You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance. You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way. (Leviticus 25:44-46 NLT)



    The following passage describes how the Hebrew slaves are to be treated.



    If you buy a Hebrew slave, he is to serve for only six years. Set him free in the seventh year, and he will owe you nothing for his freedom. If he was single when he became your slave and then married afterward, only he will go free in the seventh year. But if he was married before he became a slave, then his wife will be freed with him. If his master gave him a wife while he was a slave, and they had sons or daughters, then the man will be free in the seventh year, but his wife and children will still belong to his master. But the slave may plainly declare, 'I love my master, my wife, and my children. I would rather not go free.' If he does this, his master must present him before God. Then his master must take him to the door and publicly pierce his ear with an awl. After that, the slave will belong to his master forever. (Exodus 21:2-6 NLT)



    Notice how they can get a male Hebrew slave to become a permanent slave by keeping his wife and children hostage until he says he wants to become a permanent slave. What kind of family values are these?



    The following passage describes the sickening practice of sex slavery. How can anyone think it is moral to sell your own daughter as a sex slave?



    When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again. But he is not allowed to sell her to foreigners, since he is the one who broke the contract with her. And if the slave girl's owner arranges for her to marry his son, he may no longer treat her as a slave girl, but he must treat her as his daughter. If he himself marries her and then takes another wife, he may not reduce her food or clothing or fail to sleep with her as his wife. If he fails in any of these three ways, she may leave as a free woman without making any payment. (Exodus 21:7-11 NLT)



    So these are the Bible family values! A man can buy as many sex slaves as he wants as long as he feeds them, clothes them, and screws them!
     
    #39     May 25, 2011
  10. Fairy tales are not history books.
     
    #40     May 25, 2011