Socialised health care in Canada poll

Discussion in 'Economics' started by moneymonger, Feb 9, 2009.

  1. spinn

    spinn

    You would lose that bet. I have lived both of those realities.
     
    #231     Feb 19, 2009
  2. Mav88

    Mav88

    You would lose that bet. I have lived both of those realities.

    your statement wasn't about yourself, it was about all doctors and all people in the US, your personal experience is irrelevent
     
    #232     Feb 19, 2009
  3. Mnphats

    Mnphats



    Link Please.
     
    #233     Feb 19, 2009
  4. 50% taxes?! Are you insane?! I am Canadian and can tell you we pay nowhere NEAR 50% taxes! Please get your facts straight before you post.
     
    #234     Feb 19, 2009
  5. Mav88

    Mav88

    I'm sure higher income people do, but what I meant is that is what I would pay here in the states
     
    #235     Feb 19, 2009
  6. spinn

    spinn

    I couldn't find the numerous articles I saw two years ago stating 80% of Americans have medical debt on their credit file.

    If half of bankruptcies are due to medical issues, that is not a stretch

    Pull your credit file before you flame me....its free.
     
    #236     Feb 19, 2009
  7. Roger that.
    But just for the record as I have heard many comments about extraordinarily high taxes in Canada to pay for the healthcare, here are the 2008 federal tax rates in Canada:

    15% on first $39,000
    22% on next $39,000
    26% on next $49,000
    29% on income over $126,000

    Add roughly 5-10% provincial taxes depending on the province and your amount of income.
     
    #237     Feb 19, 2009
  8. Mav88

    Mav88

    I'm not really surprised that Canadians pay less than I do, we have a very lavish socialized medical care system for segments of our population and they cost a lot. We also are building this massive debt, so one way or another I am going to pay more.
     
    #238     Feb 19, 2009
  9. Mnphats

    Mnphats



    Not flaming just curious as to where you got your numbers. I did find a link from 2005.

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6895896/

    I doubt Harvard would lie. :D
     
    #239     Feb 19, 2009
  10. piezoe

    piezoe

    I disagree, and stand by my original post. Costs for equivalent procedures and for equivalent drugs, almost across the board, are significantly lower in Canada, and all other developed countries.

    Rationing, whether it exists or not, is not relevant to the point i made, which is that until costs in the US are brought down no real progress can be made in addressing the failure of the US health care system.

    I would agree with letting the free market operate, as that, i believe, is the best way to bring down cost. But you do understand, don't you, that the US Healthcare system is just about as far from a free market capitalist system as you can get! It is, in fact, a government condoned* Cartel in which the FDA and other government bodies are complicit! It is highly regulated and this regulation serves the interests of the Cartel, not the patient.

    (I use "condone" here in the dictionary sense, meaning to overlook. )
     
    #240     Feb 19, 2009