So whatever happened to the recession we were supposed to have in 2019?

Discussion in 'Economics' started by wildchild, Oct 26, 2019.

  1. SunTrader

    SunTrader

    Another topic should be titled:

    Whatever happened to all the wingnuts complaining that all the new jobs being created are Walmart greeters and other service jobs ..... ummmm just like currently?

    Nooooooooooow those jobs are suddenly A Ok.

    Back when Leftie Obama was in they were low wage dead end jobs. o_O

    As always the sheeple (especially extreme right or left) just look at the headline numbers, even if they don't tell the whole story.
     
    #101     Dec 7, 2019
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  2. and the 'gig' economy where employers are not employers but customers and employees are 'contractors' or considered self employed with gig jobs like uber. these gigs are substinence and many of the 'workers' cannot pay rent or put food on the table with their pay checks.

    As for the financial industsry, it's an industry in structural decline in terms jobs, bank jobs are unsecure and doowsized ,,offsourced since the late 90's

    Trump wants China to open it's financial wealth management business to access it's trillions in pension money. or have control over their stock market, you think the communist party will allow the American financial racket to own their market? financial industry is the most protected industry in every country. or protectionism, You don't see any Chinese based financial firms in the US market do you? you have people from the industry complain to congress etc. because their is a policy of no foreign control or ownership in financial services industry.

    that is how imperialism works, you have foreign ownership of your industries, and jobs. your boss is as foreigner and owned by a forign gov' tand profits are transferred to some foreign office etc. and the foreigner want political changes like as the case in China.

    Immigrants and foreign companies change or make the country as it should be.
     
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    #102     Dec 7, 2019
  3. SunTrader

    SunTrader

    #103     Dec 7, 2019
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    Plenty of patterns are true in hunting + markets.[1] Best moves tend to be early + late.[2] Bear season in TN is SEPT + OCT= same with markets sometimes .[3]Have plenty of ammo .[4] The UK fund manager said if you run out of ammo- then the elephant comes by .LOL:D:D. :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:caution::caution:
     
    #104     Dec 9, 2019
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    Good thing,
    for the bulls ; DOW transports dont mean much, unless you trade that sector. I took some tech profits . I like Dow Theory but now thy have airlines in that. This could be a a problem for the bulls =52 week sell volume is picking up in QQQ, +52 week buy volume is getting weaker OOPs!!!!! NOT.a prediction + not a truck driver...............................................................................
     
    #105     Dec 9, 2019
  6. Arnie

    Arnie

    What are the chances the average investor is on the right side?

    Investors Bail on Stock Market Rally, Fleeing Funds at Record Pace

    The S&P 500 is having its best run in six years, but individual investors are fleeing stock funds at the fastest pace in decades. That is potentially a good sign for the long-running bull market. Investors have pulled $135.5 billion from U.S. stock-focused mutual funds and exchange-traded funds so far this year, the biggest withdrawals on record, according to data provider Refinitiv Lipper, which tracked the data going back to 1992. Analysts say the trend highlights investors’ apprehension toward a stock market buffeted by the long-running U.S.-China trade war and lingering worries about a potential recession. Stock funds have bled money over seven consecutive quarters, dating to the second quarter of 2018—when trade tensions between the U.S. and China ratcheted higher. The outflows are also a sign that investors aren’t chasing the stock market’s strong performance, either. This suggests major indexes like the S&P 500 still have plenty of room to run after a decadelong rally. Investors have shifted hundreds of billions of dollars into bonds and money-market funds, areas considered to be harbors from volatility. A trade deal could pull some of that money back into stocks—many of which are trading at relatively reasonable valuations and offer dividends that top yields on U.S. Treasury bonds. “There’s not a lot of faith in this market,” said Scott Wren, a senior global equity strategist at Wells Fargo Investment Institute. “There’s no chasing going on. Usually before you hit the top in a cycle, there’s a lot of chasing and fund flows are higher.”

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/invest...ally-fleeing-funds-at-record-pace-11575801002
     
    #106     Dec 10, 2019
  7. even if the unemployment was 10% and huge economic decline this fraud market or fed 'supported market' may still be up or won't crash. cause it's manipulated to stay high. it's not a free market. rigged market
     
    #107     Dec 10, 2019
  8. based on the 'good economy' interest rates should be rising but it's not. as complaints for the repo market,,cause nobody will lend money for less than 10% in the private debt market.

    fed money markets is BS okay
     
    #108     Dec 10, 2019
  9. SunTrader

    SunTrader

    "Nobody" needs to lend, with all the fed free money sloshing around.

    And the rates are low because of the fed ... buying everything (4 triliion dollars worth) not nailed down.
     
    #109     Dec 10, 2019
  10. S2007S

    S2007S



    There is a prediction/rumor that fed will announce QE4 in coming weeks/months to help stabilize the lending market.
     
    #110     Dec 11, 2019