So what are right-wingers outraged about today?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by dbphoenix, Jan 16, 2015.

  1. Another Republican Governor Proposes Big Cuts in Higher Education.


    Add another state to the list of budgetary showdowns playing out between Republican governors and higher education.

    First there was Wisconsin, where Gov. Scott Walker proposed dealing with a $2-billion deficit by giving the public-university system more autonomy and, in exchange, cutting $300-million in state funding over two years. Then a close examination of Mr. Walker’s budget proposal showed his office wanted the popular “Wisconsin Idea” and its public-service emphasis stripped out of the system’s mission statement. He later dropped that part of the proposal, saying it was a result of “confusion.”

    Second came Louisiana, where Gov. Bobby Jindal is expected to propose a $400-million cut in higher education to help close a $1.6-billion deficit (he is scheduled to formalize the proposal this month). Educators in Louisiana are wringing their hands over the possibility that it will be necessary to close campuses or lay off faculty members in response.

    The chopping-block tour of 2015 made its third stop, in Illinois, on Wednesday, where Gov. Bruce Rauner proposed cutting a $1.5-billion deficit by slashing $387-million from higher education in the state, the Chicago Tribune reported. The proposal from Governor Rauner, who took office just last month, would amount to a cut of $209-million for the University of Illinois system, which did not respond warmly to the news.
     
    #141     Feb 20, 2015
  2. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Maybe the governors of these states need to ask why companies are refusing to relocate to their states and leaving their states. I expect that despite the incentives they dangled to attract these companies, the lack of support for education was a significant factor in the decisions to locate in other states.
     
    #142     Feb 20, 2015
  3. Ricter

    Ricter

    The individual market consumers lost under the ACA. Yes, we knew that.
     
    #143     Feb 20, 2015
  4. fhl

    fhl

    U.S. education spending tops global list, study shows


    The United States spends more than other developed nations on its students' education each year, with parents and private foundations picking up more of the costs, an international survey released Tuesday found.



    Despite the spending, U.S. students still trail their rivals on international tests.

    As a share of its economy, the United States spent more than the average country in the survey.

    The United States routinely trails its rival countries in performances on international exams despite being among the heaviest spenders on education.

    The average first-year high school teacher in the United States earns about $38,000. OECD nations pay their comparable educators just more than $31,000.

    The average high school teacher in the United States earns about $53,000, well above the average of $45,500 among all OECD nations.

    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/us-education-spending-tops-global-list-study-shows/
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    The "teachers don't make enough money" scam has just about run it's course. People are waking up to it and won't tolerate being gouged by gov't fed leeches much longer.

    Any company that uses that excuse to move ought to have 'good riddance' said to it by any informed citizen. Plenty of companies and people who want to work move to states that cut taxes to the bone, as migratory statistics plainly show to anyone who is really interested.
     
    #144     Feb 20, 2015
  5. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    You do realize that if you do not include the poor urban school systems in the test results then the U.S. is #1 in Education by a significant margin.

    http://www.elitetrader.com/et/index.php?threads/school-daze.286467/page-11#post-4068035
     
    #145     Feb 20, 2015
  6. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    You do realize that every state that has "cut taxes to the bone" is losing companies and population.

    Let's take a look at Kansas. We are seeing the same news headlines repeated over & over again.

    2 companies leaving Kansas for Missouri
    http://ksn.com/2014/07/23/2-companies-leaving-kansas-for-missouri/

    Boeing to close historic Wichita plant
    http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/mone...oeing-plant-closing-wichita-kansas/52377688/1

    Census: More people moving out of Kansas than moving in
    http://www.kansas.com/news/article1138420.html
     
    #146     Feb 20, 2015
  7. fhl

    fhl


    Yeah, that's what we should do. Exclude the underperforming schools to make the teachers results look better. You do realize that you can make any study say anything you want by using that trick, don't you?
     
    #147     Feb 20, 2015
  8. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    It does not change the reality... it is very hard to make a case that teachers are overpaid or the majority of K-12 schools are failing in the U.S.
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    The assertion that "non-Hispanic white Americans who are mostly the products of suburban public K-12 schools, are at the very top of global comparison" is pushed by Michael Lind and others from the New America Foundation. Most of Michael Lind's articles are found in Salon. Michael Lind is the author of Land of Promise: An Economic History of the United States and co-founder of the New America Foundation.

    Here are a couple of his articles that make this assertion and backs it up with test score figures.
    http://www.salon.com/2012/08/01/school_choice_vs_reality/

    http://www.salon.com/2011/01/25/lind_myth_china/

    New America Foundation
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_America_Foundation
    New America is an American non-profit, nonpartisan[1] public policy institute and liberal think tank focusing on a wide range of issues, including national security studies, technology, asset building, health, gender, energy, education, and the economy. The organization is based in Washington, D.C., in addition to having a significant presence in New York City.
     
    #148     Feb 20, 2015
  9. fhl

    fhl

    The kind of company that would say they want to locate in a state that taxes and spends like a drunken sailor would be someone like apple or google. They would tell you that having those services makes the states more desirable and the states better places to locate.

    Except they structure their own companies incomes to avoid a huge portion of those taxes by using offshore accounting tricks.
    And the executives in the companies have their own pay structured so that it takes the form of long term capital gains instead of ordinary incomes. Almost all of them do it this way.

    So in other words, they tell you that taxes and spending are great, but they do everything in their power to avoid paying it themselves. That should tell you everything you need to know about what they really think and their level of candor in their public remarks.
     
    #149     Feb 20, 2015
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  10. fhl

    fhl


    When you have to start quoting salon, that's when we know you have hit rock bottom.
     
    #150     Feb 20, 2015