So retailers just stop paying rent ...yep billions in profits but can't afford 1 months rent

Discussion in 'Wall St. News' started by S2007S, Apr 23, 2020.

  1. virtusa

    virtusa

    Will your friend also pay more rent if his sales are over $100K? Let's say 50% more if his business runs better than expected? Or does it only work in 1 direction?
    Your friend could negociate a rent based on sales. I know a very big mall where all shops have to use a billingsystem provided by the mall owner. They pay rent based on their sales. The mall owner can see all the sales from each shop in the billing system.
     
    #41     Apr 23, 2020
  2. monee

    monee

    I guess a temporary rent adjustment could be done,but most likely the landlord will not get any break in his principal and interest payment or insurance or property taxes.
    Doing this would be in the landlords best interest generally so hopefully when things return to somewhat normal the landlord won't lose too many tenants.
    As far as crowded restaurants, I can't picture business ever getting back to normal,I wouldn't go.
     
    #42     Apr 23, 2020
  3. SunTrader

    SunTrader

    Don't be so sure about that. Lenders adjust terms all the time.
     
    #43     Apr 23, 2020
  4. monee

    monee

    I have seen a lot of residential modifications,especially owner occupied.
    Haven't seen any commercial property modifications,but maybe they aren't publicized.
    Many banks offered interest rate modifications on commercial property mortgages when interest rates dropped so they wouldn't lose a cust in a refi.
     
    #44     Apr 23, 2020
  5. bone

    bone

    Oh we’re going to see all kinds of commercial modifications because most of these businesses are seeing zero cash flow for what - 4,5, maybe 6 months :caution:

     
    #45     Apr 23, 2020
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  6. monee

    monee

    Hopefully not as long as that.I think the restaurants with dining rooms are doomed.The takeout places that lease small spaces probably are not getting hit.
     
    #46     Apr 23, 2020
  7. SunTrader

    SunTrader

    Are there any other kind?

    Don't take this the wrong way but you seem either naive or ill informed.
     
    #47     Apr 23, 2020
  8. tiddlywinks

    tiddlywinks

    You've never heard of ghost kitchens?
     
    #48     Apr 23, 2020
  9. SunTrader

    SunTrader

    Yes I heard of ghost kitchens.

    But not ghost restaurants.
     
    #49     Apr 23, 2020
  10. manonfire

    manonfire

    Does nothing to help us so far and we have a $500 a hour corporate attorney on retainer. Every landlord we are dealing with has made it very clear they intends to be paid. Most are deferring and clawing back down the road. We have two locations with Brixmor and our system has several. They requested an encyclopedia of information to consider modifications but have granted none and have sent default notices to anyone who did not pay April’s rent. Will be interesting to see if they get any bailout money. Even with partial deferrals I am paying over $50,000 a month in rents for spaces I can’t use. But we have been advised to avoid default at all costs. There has to be a backstop from the lenders on down. We have an extremely viable and successful business in normal times and I know there are groups in the franchise waiting to pounce and scoop up failed projects for nothing. This is going to get very ugly if this goes beyond May and there is no backstop. We can make it a few more months after that with a line of credit and capital calls but we need some seed corn as well. I will add that our franchise does not qualify for any ppp loans or other assistance.
     
    #50     Apr 23, 2020