i talked to quite a few traders and most say they are getting killed. now,one would suggest that a volitile market is great for trading. not so in the real world. most guys hold losing trades overnight or with the hopes of that famous 3:00 turn around. true,a great trader can take small losses but 95% of traders don't stick by that rule and let losers ride. thats why 95% of traders fail. just rambling but i speak the truth.