make a living trading it is laughable they have the super expensive software, the super expensive feed,s subscriptions of publications, CNBC on the air, three 20' monitors, big leverage and STILL manage to lose lots of money. Then they post their strategies and complaints about how 'the market keeps goign up' or 'not enough/too much volatility' on elite trader. Then they try to use mini's and ET and spx. Trade for a tick..slippage erases all gains. 10K doWN THE DRAIN. The fed isn't bearish enough. have to cover at a loss. Lose more money. That seems to be the pattern around here,.