SO lets hear some ideas... Where do you put your money?

Discussion in 'Trading' started by Nofear777, Oct 27, 2008.

  1. etfs can be trusted...etns cannot.
     
    #11     Oct 28, 2008
  2. Palladium. ETFs, bullion, futures. Look at the current price and chart

    Lookup palladium on wikipedia and see the uses...
     
    #12     Oct 28, 2008
  3. Aok

    Aok

    gold, guns, and bullets.
     
    #13     Oct 28, 2008
  4. Rhodium is down about 85% from july. Its starting to look like a buy. Was 10,000 per ounce in july. Now its around 1600 or so. If it ever gets to 500, I would stockpile it because its almost guaranteed to go up 4 to 10 fold within 5-10 years as Rhodium always has great fluctuation over a long period of time. If you buy at the right time, ever since the 70s it would always go up at least 4 fold and then come down 80 or 90% and then go back up and down.
     
    #14     Oct 28, 2008
  5. dont

    dont

    Is there a future on Rhodium?
     
    #15     Oct 28, 2008
  6. kowboy

    kowboy

    I'm wondering how safe these are since there are credit swaps used to implment the positions and rely upon counter parties for contractual performance.

    I'm reading the prospectus and the risks inolved include

    ProShares UltraShort Lehman 7-10 Year Treasury
    is subject to the following principal risks:
    • Aggressive Investment Technique Risk, Correlation
    Risk, Counterparty Risk, Credit Risk, Debt Instrument
    Risk, Interest Rate Risk, Inverse Correlation
    Risk, Investment Company and Exchange Traded
    Fund Risk, Liquidity Risk, Market Price Variance
    Risk, Market Risk, Non-Diversification Risk,
    Portfolio Turnover Risk, Short Sale Risk and Valuation
    Time Risk.
     
    #16     Oct 28, 2008

  7. Indeed. Gold ETFs carry similar risks. In my opinion I think that the ETF explosion is a bit worrisome.

     
    #17     Oct 28, 2008

  8. why is it so?
     
    #18     Oct 28, 2008
  9. It's not a matter of trust. ETFs carry a lot of risk. This is not something that most talk about.
     
    #19     Oct 28, 2008


  10. It also depends on how you define safe-haven. A safe-haven doesn't necessarily help you grow your wealth, but rather puts it into hybernation until the storm passes. People who held DM during the Weimar lost it all due to hyperinflation. Those who had property watched it drop dramatically in value during the 30s, however, they were able to recover their wealth during time of expansion (i.e. 1950s in Germany). But it can a long time to recover it!
     
    #20     Oct 28, 2008