So is Obama planning on rasing taxes?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by The Kin2, Feb 27, 2008.

  1. "Stocks were down sharply Friday after a reading on Midwest manufacturing came in at its lowest level in more than six years and a survey showed consumer confidence at its lowest in 16 years."

    You really do need to pull your head out of the sand...

     
    #31     Feb 29, 2008
  2. Yannis

    Yannis

    Natural economic ups and downs, goes with the territory. The Midwest has been restructuring their economy for decades, and they still have a lot of work to do, apparently. Same for all of us, that's my point. There's no safe haven, but a free market that changes all the time to compete most effectively.
     
    #32     Feb 29, 2008
  3. So Bush's recession is natural, and there was nothing he could have done to prevent it.

    That's the story you are sticking with...

     
    #33     Feb 29, 2008
  4. Yannis

    Yannis

    First, a recession is defined as two consecutive quarters with negative growth. Not only haven't we had that, but it won't hapen this year, mark my words. What IS going to happen is some slower economic growth, perhaps around 1.5% for the year (although the Government is expecting 2%.)

    Second, yes, of course, he could have done a thousand things to prevent it, like I could have bought IBM at 80 not too long ago. It is easy to criticize everything and every one post de facto. Only thing, remember, his economic record is among the very best for a long time, easily matching, perhaps surpassing, Clinton's.

    What we need these guys in Washington to do, imo, is to have a good plan, carrying it out with gusto, and reacting to unexpected developments with speed and competence. Even Democrats like Pelosi and Reid credit George W for these traits, and that's why they are so afraid of him.
     
    #34     Feb 29, 2008
  5. "...he (Bush) could have done a thousand things to prevent it..."

    Contributory negligence...

    It is easy to continue to support Bush, just stick you head in the sand and pretend all is well...

     
    #35     Feb 29, 2008
  6. Actually, recessions are a natural ingredient in the business cycle, and they provide an important service. They clean out excesses and inefficiencies so that the economy can continue on to its next leg of growth. Its only within the past few years that the FED has decided to do anything possible (such as sacrificing the dollar) to avoid recession. It will only make things worse in the long run. Extends the pain so to speak instead of just getting it over with. Banks will have crappy balance sheets for GOD knows how long this way. Just one example.

    The ironic thing is that it isn't even the FED's job to prop up the economy. Their job is to promote stable prices, and provide liquidity in emergency situations (ie 9-11, Asian currency collapse of 1997, etc). They have morphed to do anything possible to prop up stocks and avoid recession. Soon, it will become apparent that there is little they can do. Interest rates will only do so much.
     
    #36     Feb 29, 2008
  7. Soon it become apparent to most that Interest Rates is far from all they do,

     
    #37     Feb 29, 2008
  8. Yannis

    Yannis

    C'mon Z, read the rest of my paragraph and quote me in context... Or meet me at the Jokes2 thread and I'll show you a thing or two! :)
     
    #38     Mar 1, 2008
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    True ,Jayford;
    and lots of people say''go McCain'',dont know if its exactly the way you meant it. LOL

    In Barak Husein's favor;
    he is simply is much more likable than hot tempered Hillary.

    Rather see Mike Huckabee win, like Ronald Reagan.

    As smooth speaker/style , Barak Hussein is like JFK;
    but JFK was a [ proven ] tax cutter, cold warrior/Cuba warrior.Barak has proved he is neither.

    Only the mainstream media confuses style with substance.

    :cool:
     
    #39     Mar 1, 2008
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    Looks like hot tempered Hillary is giving him a close race;
    lets see what TX, Ohio does, Hughb.

    Monica Crawford , McLaughlin group reporter , on PBS today;
    figured Barak Hussein is getting some ''guilty white votes''

    She maybe right,'' guilty white votes''

    Principled voters of every race helped/voted for Clarence Thomas.Dr Dobson,Christian PHD was right.
    Big difference.:cool:
     
    #40     Mar 1, 2008