So I profited 820 dollars on a deep ITM options spread and received this email from Tastytrade

Discussion in 'Options' started by Con1991, Apr 22, 2024.

  1. If they don't want to allow a trade then shouldn't that be handled on the backend instead of sending pissy emails? I can't sell naked puts on one of my brokers for certain symbols, and the trade gets blocked no matter how many times I try to place it...
     
    #71     Apr 23, 2024
  2. This is why we have margin calculations. It's not my job as a trader to give a shit about your house. I am placing trades...if you don't want me placing certain trades the don't allow me to make them. The broker isn't your friend. Think of the broker/client relationship like a mouse stealing the cheese from the mouse trap, while the cat watches.
     
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    #72     Apr 23, 2024
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  3. poopy

    poopy

    The margin calc does not cover assignment and the resulting naked long put. Stop.
     
    #73     Apr 23, 2024
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  4. And it's not the house's job to give a shit about your "reasoning", or about your ideas of how the world should work. But you're welcome to keep trying your entitled idiocy until you're persona non grata everywhere; then you can sit at home and scream at the walls about "unfairness" and all your other delusions while normal people continue to trade without problems.

    I don't consider the broker my "friend"; unlike you, I also don't consider them my enemy. It's a mutually-beneficial business relationship. If you don't like the terms of such a relationship, don't enter it. Or, if you're already in one, you can get the hell out of it. What you don't get to do is decide, on the behalf of the other party, How It's Going To Be - because they'll just tell you to fuck off. And rightly so.
     
    #74     Apr 23, 2024
  5. vanzandt

    vanzandt

    "DITM stupidity".... lol... that's the hardest I've laughed all day. What a great line! Poetry in motion. :thumbsup:
     
    #75     Apr 23, 2024
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  6. It's their job to not allow trades not my job to figure out what trades they don't allow. I have never been on a broker that didn't mitigate their own risk on the backend anyway. If a trade doesn't fall within acceptable parameters then the trade is automatically rejected.
     
    #76     Apr 23, 2024
  7. YeahOK. They'll let you tell them what their job is, any day now. Just hold your breath for a bit...

    I assume you whine about "they shouldn't have allowed this trade if they were going to do this to me" when you get your regular daily margin call?
     
    #77     Apr 23, 2024
  8. Con1991

    Con1991

    Well said. All of the talk, from Tastytrade themselves, or indeed anyone on here or elsewhere trying to justify this 'Deep ITM options are too risky' nonsense, is all bullshit. The risk is defined with spread trades. Whether ITM or not. Assignment risks for cash-settled options are even less than that of equity options. And there is no early assignment for these. The simple fact is, glaringly obvious to me at this point, is Tastytrade do not like a winning trader. There is something decidedly irregular, that immediately after my first profitable trade of $820 for five contracts, they then block my account from making any new trades. This is not a brokerage anyone should wish to be doing business with.
     
    #78     Apr 23, 2024
  9. poopy

    poopy

    The dude is asystole. Brain dead. You can walk him through the assignment risk 100x and he'll still have some stupid conspiratorial comment.
     
    #79     Apr 23, 2024
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  10. Con1991

    Con1991

    I really don't need to take any advice from a sanctimonious idiot such as you. Calling names to me and anyone else here who disagrees with you. Just put your dummy back in your fucking mouth and shut up. Fool.
     
    #80     Apr 23, 2024