So doesn't using "tight stops" necessitate

Discussion in 'Trading' started by IronFist, Oct 21, 2008.

  1. Dude this isn't a live call thread [​IMG]
     
    #81     Oct 22, 2008
  2. YMdesk

    YMdesk

    tough one end of day
     
    #82     Oct 22, 2008
  3. YMdesk

    YMdesk

    you know what I've done this for a long long time I'm positive 28k for today I can see you have no interest in learning a thing your very typical of ET members good luck wise guy! My posting is over I'll go back to watching you evolve
     
    #83     Oct 22, 2008
  4. Remember when I had shared with you to use the 2-1 approach

    http://elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=2135428#post2135428

    Imagine if you were of actually used it.....then you would have not ended up as a loss...try it next time....:cool:
     
    #84     Oct 22, 2008
  5. Thanks for contributing to my thread. You're right I must not be open to learning since I ignored the myriad of statistically measurable and quantifiable information present in your posts. You should market your system. It's pure genius. Cheers.
     
    #85     Oct 22, 2008
  6. Sorry dude, I can't take the risk of losing such a high percentage of my account value in such a short time.

    Plus, for every loss of x ticks with 2 contracts, it would take a win of > x ticks using the 2-1 method. So my winners HAVE to be greater than my losers just to break even.
     
    #86     Oct 22, 2008
  7. Question for you..be honest...the trades that you have taken...out of 100 or 50 or 10..how many of them did you SEE where there was some profit $50, $80 or $100??
     
    #87     Oct 22, 2008
  8. Since your account cannot handle more than one contract at a time, what about calculating the rough equivalent DIA shares and trade that, cutting it in half for each close out? You could still use the YM for your charts but the DIA would be your trading vehicle.

    It's not perfect of course, but it could give you what you want of having two exists per entry.

    But if your system doesn't work with two exits anyway, then this obviously won't help.

    When I first started many years ago, I traded the QQQ (back when it was three letters) but watched the NQ charts. Worked fine. A bit sloppy sure, but a good trend is a good trend.
     
    #88     Oct 22, 2008
  9. I hate stock taxes and don't want to deal with wash sales and PDT rules and stuff.

    I have thought about doing what you said, however.

    I wish there was like a mini e-mini :D
     
    #89     Oct 22, 2008
  10. Some of them have had some profit before reversing, but probably not over $50.

    I will have to go back and review my backtesting data (all in spreadsheets) and see. Some of those losses were 20+ ticks tho and I'm hesitant to hold TWO contracts through that (that's $400 on the YM which is what I ran my backtests on). Remember tho that that strategy was designed to hold everything until the trend changed, and so a 20 tick loss with two contracts would throw off my proportion of winners if I was taking one contract off the table early for winners... if that makes sense. In other words, I NEED huge winners of equal contract size to the losers. I suspect that 2-1 trading this way would require double-sized winners to out balance the losers. In other words, the occasional winner of 50+ ticks would no longer be enough because by that point I would have taken 1 contract off the table.

    I'll get back to you.
     
    #90     Oct 22, 2008