smaller size makes you a better trader?

Discussion in 'Psychology' started by brokerboy, May 22, 2011.

  1. when i started trading the firms only let you trade 100 shares per position as you got better you traded a few 1000 shares. 1 of the reasons they train you this way is so you don't feel mentally different trading a few 1000 shares. i think a lot of people trade without having any money and lose there cool. 275 bucks at 1130 is turned into -200 because they don't respect money and need lot more than that.
     
    #21     May 24, 2011
  2. Is it just me that thinks 2% is too steep? 5 losers in a row and thats 10% of your account. I like to use .005% per bet personally. I usually take anywhere from 7-20 trades a day with a DAILY loss limit of 2%.
     
    #22     May 24, 2011
  3. I believe there are many points along the learning path where you realize something and a switch is flipped.

    Understand the psychology of learning and you'll get better at learning to trade.
     
    #23     May 24, 2011
  4. I personally use 1% but it depends on personal taste and how often you consider your account balance. What do I mean? Well using your 2% example, if you have say a $50k account at the start of the day and you say "ok 2% of 50k is $1000 so that is what I am going to risk every trade today" then yes you will lose 10% of your account on 5 losing trades. However if you take 2% of your account balance just before each trade then you would only lose about 6% of your daily starting balance. Why? Negative compounding. The first trade you lost $1k (2% of 50k), the second trade you only risked $980 because your account balance was only 49k, the third trade you only risked $960 because your account balance was $48020, and so forth. I am not saying one way or the other is "correct", I just wanted to point out the differences to help people decide what is right for them.
     
    #24     May 24, 2011
  5. i don't recognize stops on any one position that i put on, but i put a 5% stop loss on my entire days trading. that has worked quite well for me. sometimes i'll hit it because i lost 1-2% on 3 different trades at the same time and hit my 5% for the day, but more often than not it is just one trade that i never see the light of day on. i also look to take about .5%-1% out of each trade i put on- so i've made most of my money flaunting the 1:3 risk/reward ratio that everyone seems to live and die by.
     
    #25     May 24, 2011
  6. The best system is the one that works for the person using it. If this works for you then kudos for finding what works for you. Many never will.
     
    #26     May 24, 2011
  7. Visaria

    Visaria

    The numbers are wrong. 1% risked and lost 50 times leaves you with about 60%. 2% risked leaves you with about 36%.

    I would advise no more than 0.5% per trade, which is what i use on position trades and something like 0.1% (or even less) on intraday trades.
     
    #27     May 26, 2011
  8. I threw together some VB code to determine the values. In the code I multiplied the current balance by the risked % (1 in this case) and subtracted the resulting number from the current balance. I then looped through that code the desired number of losing trades and finally calculated what % of starting balance was left. Those are the values that I got.

    How did you come up with your values?
     
    #28     May 26, 2011
  9. .005% risk per trade, is that a typo ? That's a million dollars account value per point risk on the emini.
     
    #29     May 26, 2011
  10. Yes that was a typo, I like to risk no more than .5% per trade.
     
    #30     May 26, 2011