skew shape

Discussion in 'Options' started by clarodina, Jul 27, 2012.

  1. panzerman

    panzerman

    Look up the writings of Robert Tompkins. This spreadsheet is from some work he did on German Bund data I believe.
     
    #11     Jul 29, 2012
  2. Hold?

    That's what I was referring to, boosting the vol in the deeps as the natural demand is likely to lift offers to close, rather than hitting bids to open.
     
    #12     Jul 29, 2012
  3. Makes sense. Play it delta 1 into expiration, get assigned & deliver?

    If so, hadn't thought of that. Checking IB's rates..

    Could get/short the stock in 1 txn I guess.
     
    #13     Jul 29, 2012
  4. Hedge the $0.40 put?
     
    #14     Jul 29, 2012
  5. = short put for +$40 per contract, short 100 shares per contract & have the stock put to you the next morning, covering the short.

    Doable. Why are ppl trading out there short options??
     
    #15     Jul 29, 2012
  6. So short the synthetic call at $0.40 over spot. I was thinking about the mechanics of an index trade. There are many reasons to buy the deep puts near (last few days) expiration, but few reasons to sell. My only point was that there is a natural bid to cover teenies at the offer rather than the bid. The contention is that it would steepen the curve, or at least cause a kink, as the microstructure demands. IOW, a $0.10 spread on a $0.20(mid) option implies a wide vol-mkt.

    There was an instance last year of a trader/firm who was long a ton of VIX and boosted the SPX (and VIX) vol by buying x0,000s of the deep puts in SPX on the VIX cash settlement/expiration. Admittedly, an extreme example, but it moved my mark a point in the wrong direction.
     
    #16     Jul 29, 2012
  7. its amazing how much more difficult it must be to trade huge sizes.. you can't do anything without moving things
     
    #17     Jul 29, 2012
  8. Maybe you misunderstood. The point was that "they" were manipulating the VIX settlement.
     
    #18     Jul 29, 2012
  9. well i was actually thinking about what i've heard about trading big amounts.. but i get what your saying.....
     
    #19     Jul 29, 2012
  10. No idea if there's enough juice here, but would 2-3 weeks prior to expiry be approximately the right time to look at a corr play?
     
    #20     Jul 30, 2012