Skateboard Jesus Didn't Get Asked to the Prom

Discussion in 'Politics' started by elderado, Apr 5, 2019.

  1. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark


    They dont need to win red states,just take back the blue wall.The black turnout drop was biggest in the swing states,especially the blue wall states allowing Trump to win them by a measly 78,000 votes.Hillary didnt need to match Obamas black voter turnout just enough to make up those 78,000 votes.With a black vp pick I think she would have gotton it

    Blacks had the highest turnout in midterm history last year.Doug Jones and Ralph Northem had higher black voter turnout than Obama and Hillary so a black vp might not be needed for black voters to go to the polls but they should have one just to be sure imo.

    High black voter turnout would help in some red states that are turning blue though like Arizona,Texas and Georgia.

    ://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/332970-voter-turnout-dipped-in-2016-led-by-decline-among-blacks


    Voter turnout dipped in 2016, led by decline among blacks

    By Reid Wilson - 05/11/17 02:05 PM EDT

    The percentage of eligible Americans who showed up to the polls in November dipped slightly to the lowest rate in sixteen years, led by a sharp drop-off in the number of black voters casting ballots.

    New data released Wednesday by the Census Bureau shows an estimated 61.4 percent of Americans over the age of 18 cast ballots, down from the 61.8 percent who voted in 2012 and well below the 63.8 percent who voted in 2004, the recent high-point of voter participation.

    White voters were most likely to turn out; 65.3 percent of whites told Census Bureau surveyors they voted in 2016, more than a full percentage point higher than their participation rate in 2012.

    But voter turnout among black voters fell almost seven percentage points, to 59.4 percent, the Census figures show — after hitting an all-time high of 66.2 percent in 2012.

    Fewer than half of Asian Americans and Hispanic Americans turned out to vote; 49 percent of Asians and 47.6 percent of those of Hispanic origin showed up to the polls last year.

    Demographers point to declining black turnout and relatively low Hispanic turnout — two voting blocs on whom Democrats are increasingly reliant — as two of a handful of reasons Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton fell short in a handful of key battleground states last year.

    Black turnout fell 2 points and Hispanic turnout tumbled by a whopping 34 points in Michigan, a state President Trump won by just over 10,000 votes after Clinton fell short of matching President Obama's vote totals in Detroit.

    In Wisconsin, another state Trump barely won, fewer than half of black voters cast a ballot; four years ago, when Obama carried the state, 78 percent of blacks voted.


    Turnout among black voters fell seven points in Florida, and turnout among Hispanic voters there, who make up critical voting blocs stretching from Miami-Dade County to Orlando, fell eight points. That ended a streak of four consecutive elections in which black and Hispanic voters showed up in increasing numbers. At the same time, white voters, who disproportionally backed Trump, turned out at a slightly higher rate in Florida than they had in 2012.

    "These numbers point up a fairly pervasive decline in black turnout along with modest though uneven gains for whites," said William Frey, a demographer at the Brookings Institute. The declining turnout and Republicans' success in winning over more white voters "helped to explain shifts to Trump in several swing states."

    November's contests were decided by an electorate that looked whiter than what many demographers had expected. Between 1980 and 2012, the share of the electorate made up of non-Hispanic whites dropped from 87.6 percent to 73.7 percent; in 2016, demographers expected that number to drop again, as the diverse millennial generation takes on a larger role in the body politic, replacing older generations that were less racially diverse.

    But the Census Bureau data shows that 73.3 percent of the electorate in 2016 was made up of non-Hispanic whites, a statistically insignificant drop from four years before. The unexpected stasis, even as the country becomes more racially diverse, is explained by the drop in minority turnout.

    That made 2016 only the second election since 1980 that the share of the electorate made up of non-Hispanic whites did not decline by a significant margin.

    The decline in black participation is all the more stark after 2012, when for the first time the Census Bureau said blacks voted at a higher share than non-Hispanic whites. Still, the percentage of blacks who voted in 2016 was six points higher than the recent nadir, in 1996, when only 53 percent of blacks cast a ballot.

    The data offers both hope and warning signs to Democrats plotting their political comeback, and Republicans trying to hold on to their victories.

    On one hand, the data shows Democrats can chart a path back to political power by boosting turnout even at the margins among Hispanic and black voters. The party does not need to replicate Obama's 2008 and 2012 turnout machines; it simply needs to come close in large urban centers in key states like Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, North Carolina and Florida.

    On the other, it shows the demographic shift that threatens to doom Republicans — who are more reliant than ever on white voters — is manifesting itself more slowly in the electorate than in the population as a whole. That fact gives Republicans time to build new inroads to minority communities, where the party has struggled to attract support.

    Younger voters grew as a share of the electorate, both as more millennials reach voting age and as they become turnout targets for both parties. Michael McDonald, a political scientist at the University of Florida, said turnout among voters between 18 and 29 years of age grew by 2.5 percentage points, the largest increase of any age group.

    But older voters are still much more likely to cast a ballot: More than 70 percent of those over the age of 65 voted in November, far higher than the 43.4 percent of 18-29 year olds who voted. Two-thirds of those between the ages of 45 and 64 voted, according to Frey's analysis.

    The Census Bureau's data relies on a survey the agency conducts to supplement the much larger Current Population Survey.

    Other surveys have concluded that a smaller number of eligible voters actually cast ballots: One study for the group Nonprofit Vote, in which McDonald took part, found 60.2 percent of the nation's 231 million eligible voters cast a ballot in November.

    That figure was higher than the percentage of eligible voters who turned out in presidential elections between 1972 and 2000, though it fell below the recent pinnacle achieved in 2008
     
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    #21     May 12, 2019
  2. We will see, should be really interesting from a political science study of changes in voter turnout. I do not recall the % of registered voters who voted but I think we were still in the 45 to 50% range no?
     
    #22     May 13, 2019
  3. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark

    Overall voter turnout – defined as the share of adult U.S. citizens who cast ballots – was 61.4% in 2016, a share similar to 2012 but below the 63.6% who say they voted in 2008.
     
    #23     May 13, 2019
  4. That certainly is promising to see something over 60%. I wonder if we will set a new modern record in 2020 with all these groups who supposedly are now energized to come out and vote.
     
    #24     May 13, 2019
  5. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark


    2018 had the highest midterm turnout since 1914.I think 2020 sets a new record and high turnout means democrats win.
     
    #25     May 13, 2019
  6. Not to get too far into the weeds, but the american voter/electoral college system is weedy as hell....

    One of the complicating factors in using voter participation rates is that it is a straight forward calculation of actual voters over the number of registered voters. Fine so far.

    However, since the National Voter Registration Act was passed- in the early 90's I think- all sorts of automated voter registration has been enacted at the state level- at least 15-20 states. It started with motor voter registration at the DMV and has now migrated over to automatic registration (unless you opt out) when you apply for all sorts of public assistance. So it becomes harder and harder to drive up the percentage of eligible voters voting if you are also ramping up the number of people who just registered to vote on a whim when they were asked to check off a box at the DMV, but may or may not be motivated to actually vote. It definitely will drive up the number of voters but you also end out registering a lot of duds to get there. In the old days when you had to trot your sorry arse down to city hall to register to vote, I am going to guess that there was a higher correlation between registering and actually voting. Not so sure now.

    The dems are wasting their time bitching about getting rid of the electoral college. They need to focus on electing a dem president, then trying to get online voting enacted (so the russians can hack it, I guess.) I am totally opposed to it, but if someone is a dem and wants to get their airhead base to vote, then that is an easier route to go because the electoral college is here to stay. If they achieve that, then probably it is a good thing that we will all be dead in 12 years. You can even have a little app with pictures of the candidates that you can just tap. You know, just like McDonalds, which has pictures of the cheeseburgers and fries, etc on the register keys for their employees.
     
    #26     May 13, 2019
  7. 60% is still not good and this number includes both dems and GOP. One interesting fact is in most countries election day is a holiday or on the weekend where most people can vote and are not turned away by2 hour waits on lines after 6pm when people get off work.

    60% average in 2016 would jump to 70% in 2020 if they did that one simple move and that benefits both parties.

    In 2016 51% voter tunrout in Texas, 57% in New York... largest conervative and liberal states for the most part and about half stayed home or could not get to a poll for work.
     
    #27     May 13, 2019

  8. Yes, having election day as a holiday would definitely benefit the republicans because most of them have jobs they have to go to. The dems....well.......

    :cool:
     
    #28     May 13, 2019
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  9. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark

    Like jury duty voting should be mandatory imo.
     
    #29     May 13, 2019
  10. UsualName

    UsualName

    Beto has a weird dynamic to him in that he beats the living shit out of Trump in a head to head match up but can’t catch traction in the Democratic primary.

    I don’t know what this relaunch is about but it’s not a good sign this early in the race.
     
    #30     May 13, 2019