sizing futures pair

Discussion in 'Index Futures' started by deonyang, Aug 1, 2016.

  1. deonyang

    deonyang

    The spread ratio of exchange given is not always correct, because prices change all the time. Not just index future i wanted to trade, but this also applies to all futures out there as well
     
    #11     Aug 2, 2016
  2. Using IV is a rather curious choice... I am not sure what the underlying rationale for such a choice would be.
     
    #12     Aug 2, 2016
  3. deonyang

    deonyang

    its mainly margin relief for small account user, i can always adjust to notional value based
     
    #13     Aug 2, 2016
  4. If it's for margin relief, surely you'd want to check what portfolio margin methodology your broker uses (it's not necessarily going to be the same as the exchange) and use that? I am not really sure why you'd choose to start with IV-derived weights, if you're just trying to obtain margin relief.
     
    #14     Aug 2, 2016
  5. deonyang

    deonyang

    Let's just say you need 2.8 /CL for 1 /ES, its gonna required you alot more margin than
    /ES with 10% IV = $10000
    /CL with 25% IV = $10000
    so you only need to do 1 : 1 ratio, which effectively low down the required margin for a pairs trade
     
    #15     Aug 2, 2016
  6. I am very confused by this... What exactly are you trying to achieve in the first place?
     
    #16     Aug 2, 2016
  7. deonyang

    deonyang

    Pairs Trading of /ES and /CL
    usually by doing this, people weigh both these future by using Notional Value, but what im trying to achieve is using Implied Volatility to weigh both of this product.
    My question is should i using Implied Volatility/IV index shown in Option Statistic below of Thinkorswim Trade platform? Am i using the right IV?
     
    #17     Aug 2, 2016
  8. TradeCat

    TradeCat

    Don't do it deonyang. You'll lose money on this. The market favors those who are patient.
     
    #18     Aug 2, 2016
  9. deonyang

    deonyang

    okay, thanks for advice
    im not throwing on any trade, im just trying to learn
     
    #19     Aug 2, 2016
  10. TradeCat

    TradeCat

    Thank you. I will sleep better tonight.
     
    #20     Aug 2, 2016